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Scientists invented a fake disease. AI told people it was real
Scientists invented a fake disease. AI told people it was real
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If it’s plausible enough based on the dataset it was trained on it exists. Hallucinations are basically just the LLM trying to stay current by inference, I think. Edit: Guess I used the wrong words, oh well
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LLMs don’t try anything. They are deterministic tools.
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While I understand your point, deterministic with a billion variables is beyond human ability to process, let alone the multi-billion parameter models in general circulation today. At what point does deterministic descend into random? Assumed Intelligence is a solution for a bunch of multivariate problems, like say “the travelling salesman”, but it’s not intelligence nor in my opinion is it effectively “deterministic”.
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While I understand your point, deterministic with a billion variables is beyond human ability to process, let alone the multi-billion parameter models in general circulation today. Fair enough. There’s a significant difference in complexity between the surface implication of what I said versus reality. Yes, it’s deterministic, but it’s also complex enough that something more should be said… though, we need to be careful here. Our language is not mature enough to scaffold the precise concepts we need here, and attempting to do so regardless carries the risk of smuggling in many concepts we did not intend to smuggle in. Concepts like intent, for example. I agree with you, but cautiously. At what point does deterministic descend into random? It shouldn’t at any point. Instead, we’re discussing a system that’s similar to the double pendulum or three body problem. It’s deterministic, though computationally irreducible. That’s chaotic, but it is not random. It’s extremely sensitive to initial conditions.
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What are you saying precisely? It’s well known that LLMs have non-deterministic output (Ilya Sutskever even claims as such). Are you saying the way it goes about retrieving tokens as deterministic?
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They are deterministic but complex to determine. The Assumed Intelligence systems I’m familiar with have a “random” element, but it’s unclear where that source of randomness comes from. It it using a computational random source, or something like the lava lamp wall at Cloudflare, which is significantly more random, potentially actually random.
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