Well, I might not want a TV.. all I really want is a 60"+ high quality, high refresh rate, 4k+ panel to game, work and watch media on... On wait; thats literally an HDTV minus the tuner. The only thing that makes it a TV IS the tuner... and honestly it's not bad to have in an emergency or for local OTA stuff anyway. If I never use it then having it doesn't matter.