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@sakuraba@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
I think you are missing the forest for the trees here, a capitalist society is by design hostile to any “second class” person (women, disabled, POC). You need to ground these ideas and think what policies would work on this. If you try to abolish sexwork the only think you will accomplish it even worse conditions for any informal worker. Any person that was willing to perform that kind of work would be out of any protection. So what are your policies? Would people still do ‘sexwork’ in a socialist society? If they have no need to work for shelter or food, would people still do it?
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@daannii@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
So do nothing because the world isn’t perfect. ? As I keep saying. There is scientific evidence supporting the harms of sexual objectification. The harms of making prostitution legal. You can pretend it’s not true. Doesn’t change the reality.
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@DudleyMason@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
You keep making claims, but you don’t bring any evidence. I suspect that’s because you know how utterly unscientific most of the “studies” that support your position are and how the only thing they really prove is that exploitation of labor is bad regardless of the kind of labor. But since you’re really dedicated to the “sex is special and magical” kind of bullshit magical thinking, I’m sure they seem very persuasive to you.
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@daannii@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
I literally gave multiple resources links in my original comment. Its honestly sad to see so many people believe the Epstein class rhetoric has women’s best interest in mind.
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@DudleyMason@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
I literally gave multiple resources links in my original comment. Wikipedia articles and opinion pieces by political advocacy groups run by Neoliberal politicians and literal cops aren’t very strong evidence of anything. The one actual study you linked, like most others in its (usually church funded) genre, just proves something anyone could have told you: marginalizing a group of workers makes them more vulnerable to exploitation and less able to seek legal help when it happens. Any undocumented farm worker could tell you the same thing.
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@daannii@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Why is it only poor people do sex work ? uoc.edu/…/study-90-percent-women-prostitution-onl… If it’s so wonderful , why not upper class women and girls? Why does prostitution increase when wealth disparity increases? Why is prostitution more common in poorer countries? reuters.com/…/younger-girls-forced-into-prostitut… Why is prostitution more abundant in my mysoginist inequality countries? …europa.eu/…/IPOL-FEMM_ET(2014)493040_EN.pdf Why does legalizing prostitution increase rates of violence and sexual assault on local women.?researchgate.net/…/298317834_Rape_and_other_sex_o… The challenges of fighting sex trafficking in the legalized prostitution market of the Netherlands link.springer.com/article/…/s10611-013-9512-4 Here is another thing to consider. Sexual liberation is being free to express your own sexual desires and sexual behaviors without fear of stigmatization. Sex work is being paid to confirm to an expectation of a client , usually a man. A man that is unable to attract a partner due to various reasons. But none the less, is the type that has to pay for someone to pretend to want to be with them. Being paid to pretend to want to have sex with someone is peak anti-sexual liberation. It’s saying the sex workers pleasure and desires are irrelevant. Her only purpose is to apease a man’s pleasure. Not her own. And she needs to smile while she does it. Why is it mostly only women who do sex work? Why is that? Almost like if things were actually equal it wouldnt be so 1 sided. Don’t confuse turning a profit for freedom. You have a very capitalistic view of sex. Capitalism not only fuels racism. It 100% field inequality. Also. My previous Links were from university websites. Research articles about published peer reviewed articles and Wikipedia articles to define definitions. I’m guessing you didn’t actually look at them. Have you ever considered which systematic aspects of our society fuel the patriarchy and inequality or do you think it just appeared one day and stays around for no reason? You ever wonder why so many people vote against their own self interest? Because they are tricked into thinking their shackles are freedom and liberation. They willingly put them on. Tell others it’s wonderful to be sold. It’s liberating, infact. So much sexual empowerment to be an object abused and used.
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@sakuraba@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Rich people don’t to sex work like they don’t do any kind of work that requires real labor, more news at 11. Now being serious, I fail to see how that makes sexwork any special that it needs to be removed completely. As usual you won’t tackle what the previous user said: Any undocumented farm worker could tell you the same thing. Because yes! farm workers are usually exposed to chemicals used in farming with minimal protection (gloves and masks) while sweating under 40 degrees Celsius at least on California You already know why this happens and why it is exploitative
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@daannii@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
When is the last time a farm worker was raped. Given a std that’s permanent. ? Beaten. Stalked. ?
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@sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 4d
i was about to tell you they get cancer from these chemicals but it was too obvious for me, let alone thinking only sex workers are raped while working but at this point you just wanna measure who wins exploitation olympics instead of recognizing they are exploited in radical different ways
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