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We never had communism in the same way we never had a person fly by flapping their arms after jumping of a roof. It’s not that we did not try, it just does not end with a flying person. To have communism, you have to concentrate all the wealth and power in some sort of government so that people don’t own anything. And when you concentrate all power in the government, human nature produces a dictatorship.

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@nsrxn@mstdn.social on mstdn.social Open parent

human nature is not an explanation, it is hand waiving. and communism is a stateless society. no one should believe anything you've said here. there is a cure for political illiteracy.

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@DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent

human nature is not an explanation Yes, it is handwaving, because I ain’t spending time writing paragraphs of shit anyone with two brain cells to rub together can easily figure out on their own. communism is a stateless society Just because you string words together does not mean they mean something. If people don’t own/control the means of production, someone else does. Either you have private capital or a governing body. Calling it “stateless society” means nothing. That is actual handwaving of real issues.

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@nsrxn@mstdn.social on mstdn.social Open parent

"Just because you string words together does not mean they mean something. If people don’t own/control the means of production, someone else does. Either you have private capital or a governing body. Calling it “stateless society” means nothing. That is actual handwaving of real issues." communism is a stateless classless moneyless society. your semantic game doesn't change the facts

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@DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent

communism is a stateless classless moneyless society So it’s a fantasy where everyone magically knows what to do, how and when. Then does it with no incentive or punishment. No coordinators, police, or anything else required. Ok, clear. Now can we get back to real world ideas? Because if there is anyone who has the ability to order people to do something and punish them for not doing it or decide distribution of incentives, that is called a government. No matter how you try to rename it or handwave it.

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@nsrxn@mstdn.social on mstdn.social Open parent

this is the height of bad faith, no-true-scotsman, illiterate Reddit or engagement.

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@DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent

What is? The fact that not one person advocating communism actually dares define what they mean by communism? So they just jump from definition to definition to salvage losing arguments? Sure, extremely bad faith, but what you gonna do?

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@nsrxn@mstdn.social on mstdn.social Open parent

I flat out defined it and your claimed nothing could ever meet the definition

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DreamlandLividity in !lemmyshitpost

@DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world · 13d

What do you mean you defined it?! Stateless? What does that mean? How is anything decided? How are people motivated to do shit without money?

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