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Are people here pro Russia taking over Ukraine here?
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Marxists tend to critically support Russia over Ukraine here. Russia doesn’t want to “take over Ukraine,” it wants the 4 oblasts and Ukraine to be demillitarized. Donetsk and Luhansk both have been at war with Kiev since 2014 and voted to join the Russian Federation, and the far-right Banderites that siezed power in the 2014 Euromaidan coup have been heavily millitarizing and oppressing ethnic Russians. Ukraine serves a similar geopolitical purpose for the US Empire as Israel, it’s a heavily millitarized anti-communist country surroundrd by geopolitical adversaries.
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@MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world on piefed.world Open parent
There’s a lot of problems with your reply. You can’t say Russia doesn’t want to control Ukraine and reconcile that with the fact that Russia previously had puppets controlling Ukraine. You can’t seriously believe that Russia holds fair elections.
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@davel__dup_7797@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
that’s contradicted by the fact that it’s mostly Ukrainians themselves fighting, even if armed by allies. Which Ukrainians? The oligarchs running the state? The Banderite fascists? The eastern & southern Ukrainians, who, after the Maidan coup, declared independence from an unelected government, and were subsequently terrorized by the Banderites for nearly a decade, with tacit and overt support from the Ukrainian and US governments? The western Ukrainians who want the war to end? The men being kidnapped off the streets and pushed to the front lines against their will?   Previously: If not for the US/NATO, this war wouldn’t have happened in the first place.
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@MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world on piefed.world Open parent
Can’t tell if you’re talking about the Russians or the Ukrainians. My argument isn’t so much that Ukraine is good…it’s that Russia is worse.
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@davel__dup_7797@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Worse for whom?
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@MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world on piefed.world Open parent
For the world. Giant repressive capitalist dictatorships that are full of fascists and invade other countries aren’t good for anybody…even if some of the people they’re killing are also fascists.
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@davel__dup_7797@lemmy.ml · Dec 13
For the world. If by the world you mean the imperial core, then yes. Giant repressive capitalist dictatorship You mean the United States? full of fascists I don’t think you understand fascism. Previously: Michael Parenti » 🔈 Fascism, The False Revolution Gabriel Rockhill: Fascism: Now You See It, Now You Don’t! Liberalism and Fascism: Partners in Crime The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discreetly Internationalized It
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