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@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com on lemmy.dbzer0.com Open parent
Not sure if you’ve seen but there is a custom kernel for surfaces that you can install which should get most stuff working: github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface?tab=readme… They have a feature matrix so you can see which features should work depending on the model. However I haven’t tried installing it yet because the surface go is so old everything except the camera seems to work with the standard kernel.
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@wltr@discuss.tchncs.de on discuss.tchncs.de Open parent
Thanks! I’ve heard of the kernel, yet never had any chance at testing. It’s great to know the old devices are upstreamed, as I might want price over everything else. I’m looking for a laptop that I’d be able to do some tasks, but not everything. I have no idea whether it’s a good idea to get Surface, but it looks quite good.
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@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com on lemmy.dbzer0.com Open parent
Yeah Linux is great at resurrecting obsolete devices! This one was in the trash pile because it can’t run Windows 11. I can’t really comment on whether it’s a good idea to buy one though since I got this one free and I’ve not done much with it yet. It’s missing the keyboard cover and pen as well so I’m using it as more of an iPad/Android tablet alternative than a laptop.
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@wltr@discuss.tchncs.de on discuss.tchncs.de Open parent
I understand, I’d see if I can get one for cheap, I’m not hurrying. I’d love to learn whether it’s good as a tablet, would be pretty great to have a tablet running Linux!
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@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com on lemmy.dbzer0.com Open parent
Feel free to ask me in a few weeks and I’ll let you know! I’m going to try Waydroid as well, then it’s basically an Android and Linux tablet in one
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@wltr@discuss.tchncs.de on discuss.tchncs.de Open parent
Hey, I’ve found the model previous to yours! For money, but it has a keyboard cover, which I need. It’s not too expensive, about $30 / €25 / £22. I’m thinking of getting one. Do you have something to add about yours? I’m mostly interested in how it runs Linux. My research has shown it’s decent for its price.
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@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com on lemmy.dbzer0.com Open parent
Which model have you found? Mine is a first generation Surface Go so I didn’t think there was a previous model? I’ve honestly been quite impressed with it so far though, it seems to run Linux quite well! I didn’t even have to use the Surface kernel as everything worked fine with the standard kernel. The touchscreen worked fine straight away with no config needed. The gyroscope works as well for auto-rotate, although you may need to do a bit of config to get your DE to recognise it (there’s a GNOME extension to fix it). I even managed to get secure boot working with custom keys. I found it a bit tricky at first as it was difficult to find an on screen keyboard that had extra keys such as tab, eventually I switched from KDE to GNOME as their on screen keyboard was the best. You probably won’t have that problem if you’re getting the keyboard cover anyway, and tbh if you don’t need a good on screen keyboard KDE may be the better choice for a touch screen. I’m also quite impressed with Waydroid. There is a bit of a performance hit from it being virtualised rather than an actual Android tablet, but considering how weak the CPU is the performance is still pretty good. Its fairly noticeable if you compare the performance of a native web browser vs an Android browser running through Waydroid, but depending on what you’re doing it’s nice to be able to run Android apps since they’re more touch focused. It also doesn’t have perfect compatibility, I couldn’t get IronFox to work at all. The only bit that was a bit dodgy was the camera, you need to install libcamera for it to work and even then some programs don’t recognise that you have a camera, or if it does you just get a green screen. But I have no need for the camera so I don’t really care. Switching to the Surface kernel didn’t help either so I’ve stuck with the standard kernel.
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@wltr@discuss.tchncs.de on discuss.tchncs.de Open parent
Thanks for your feedback! The model I’ve found is named Surface 3, and it looks like it’s very similar to Go, just the names are different. However, that particular item was sold, so I need to hunt another item. I decided to explore all three models, the one I was considering, yours, and the next one too (Go 2). I’m looking for a keyboard only option, however I realised I may not really need any. Having a decently built tablet with Gnome looks good enough for me! I don’t care about the camera, it’s still worse than my iPhone, and I’m not going to have any video calls, that’s for sure. I thought of reading some books, plus writing a blog. It’s really challenging to write, as when I’m with my computer, I do work. When I’m on a phone, it’s not really comfortable to write long texts, and do any serious work. A Surface tablet with Linux, looks very good. Seriously, a couple of weeks ago, I wasn’t aware you can get a Linux tablet at all! Thanks to M$ for building such a shitty OS, most people selling this tablet as garbage. I thought of buying a used iPad Pro 12.9 (2015), I have a couple at home, and it’s fabulous (especially given the price, you can get one used for about $100). And iPad Pro is just miles ahead of this garbage. But! The real OS (Linux) makes it better than iOS. Windows is real OS too, but since it’s garbage, iOS is still a much better experience in most tablet scenarios. As of today, I think I’d get a cheap used Chinese Windows tablet with a crappy keyboard, just to test waters. Assuming a Surface is a better device in every department (support, built quality, keyboard quality), and the Linux on the go is something I’d find useful, I’d surely go with monitoring local used market for a decent item. So, yeah, thanks for drawing my attention towards this. I’m long dreaming of having a cheap and light Linux laptop with me. And a used Surface looks decent for that. Did I ask you about the battery life and whether it sleeps well? Theoretically, I could turn it on when I need it, not a big deal. The portability is my main issue, otherwise it’d stay at home most times. But if it sleeps good and is usable in a real tablet mode (meaning you forget about a battery, it’s just always charged when you pick it up), it’s just an ideal iPad replacement for me.
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@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com · Mar 15
No problem! What are you planning on using it for? I’ve had a look at the specs and it looks like the surface 3 is quite a lot weaker in single core performance, but multi-core seems about the same. It also only goes up to 4GB RAM, if you’re wanting to use Waydroid that probably won’t be enough as I struggle a little bit on 8GB (if I try to do split-screen in Waydroid it seems to run out of memory and one of the apps will crash). Despite that this one has enough power for what I use it for, although if I had paid for it I’d probably want a bit more power. It probably depends what price you can get one for. Battery is hard for me to comment on, as well as the lack of Windows 11 support the other reason it was on the scrap pile at work is because they were complaining they got less than 30 minutes battery life out of it. I suspect a lot of that was because they used it outside so it got too cold. I’ve been getting about 2-2.5 hours out of it since I got it home which isn’t that great for a tablet, but good enough for me especially since it was free! I don’t know to what extent the battery has degraded so it may be possible to get a unit that lasts much longer. I think the one I have was originally purchased in 2018 so it’s fairly good for a 7 year old battery! The battery life is probably the biggest risk of buying a used one. Having said that I’m not sure you’d ever get iPad levels of battery life from one, it’s more of a laptop that happens to be in a tablet form factor so even brand new its closer to a laptop in terms of battery life. Sleep seems to work ok, although for some reason it takes 2 or 3 button presses to wake up as the screen immediately turns off again after the first press.
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