2026-10-01 13:27 UTC
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@FreeinTX@poa.st 2026-10-01 16:35
@Myles@poa.st @gav@cawfee.club @caekislove@caekis.love @admin@detroitriotcity.com That's a bullshit strawman. Iran's power comes from their ability to close the straits and cripple the world economy, which is exactly what they are doing. This has been the concern over attacking Iran since 1979. Iran having control of the strait and Trump being forced to restrain israel and force their withdrawal from Lebanon and a cessation of their genocide in Gaza with no concessions on the Iranian nuclear program would be a total Iranian victory. More control over the strait than before the war started, Iran tolling strait traffic, which was not happening before the war, and no control over their nuclear program, which we had before the war, means an Iranian victory. No one was suggesting that a hot war between Israel/US and Iran was going to be a thing that Iran would win. No one was suggesting that Israel or the US would cease to exist following a war with Iran. The US and Israel can't invade Iran and expect victory, and they can't bomb Iran into a regieme change. Nor can the US force open the Strait, which you suggested, yesterday, was largely open. Of course, it's not. You're the one tryna move the goalposts to hide a total strategic defeat of the US and Israel.
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@gav@cawfee.club 2026-10-02 07:08
@Myles@poa.st @caekislove@caekis.love @admin@detroitriotcity.com @FreeinTX@poa.st whether you agree or not those have been understood to be the same thing the entire time, according to one of the smoke pit guys the logistics for maintaining a staging base in kuwait and the fleet headquarters in bahrain(i think), whether thats a victory or not its a positive achievement to removing us presence if thats the goal. you also made alot about aircraft carriers not being sunk but they had to move further away than is effective (again smoke pit guy but ive heard it elsewhere), so this isnt somehow a failiure or a reasonable thing to mock thos in the thread about there arent any links in this thread, the thread quoted, or the thread quoted in the quoted thread, youll have to repost them