2023-01-07 01:36 UTC
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@Rhodium103@mastodon.social 2023-01-07 09:20
@AndyPerfors@aus.social That's only the 9th wildest bit in that story: https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb33804055
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@jfa@sciencemastodon.com 2023-01-07 10:12
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Szilard understood. One could add “turn researchers into peer reviewers; promise them anonymity; then break that promise, covertly, in specific cases in order to establish a sociogram of who supports, or opposes, whom.” Access to that information is essential for the would-be trendsetter, who will thereby be able to secure recognition for himself, and broker deals for collaboration, and funding. Then “measure” research “performance” by citations and grant income.
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@sqrtminusone@fosstodon.org 2023-01-07 11:09
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Although we don't know the counterfactual, that probably didn't work, considering how much progress has been made since then. Even there was some Machiavelli back in the day, who rationalized screwing humanity like that for some reason, which is extremely doubtful tbh.
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@srikumarks@mathstodon.xyz 2023-01-07 11:57
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Lol - "As a matter of fact, any of the National Science Foundation bills which were introduced in the Seventy-ninth and Eightieth Congresses could perfectly well serve as a model." @physicssteve@sciencemastodon.com
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@ZeNeece@social.vivaldi.net 2023-01-07 13:35
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Well, that would Never happen in rea... oh. ☹️ never mind.
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@rrogers@mathstodon.xyz 2023-01-07 14:26
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Book: The Trouble with Physics: The Rise of String Theory, the Fall of a Science, and What Comes Next by Lee Smolin (Author)
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@MCDuncanLab@mstdn.social 2023-01-07 15:40
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Wow! He predicted today's US biomedical science enterprise 75 years ago.
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@NicoleCRust@neuromatch.social 2023-01-07 20:37
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Thank you! I had never heard of it. Read it. It's one of those things that we don't have good words for - some combination of on point, too close to home, uncomfortable and funny all at once. For anyone into that description, a recommended read ⬆️
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@danibanez@mast.hpc.social 2023-01-07 21:00
@AndyPerfors@aus.social that last sentence feels true today… both internally at my employer and in academia abroad I see fashions… UQ was the previous one, AI/ML is the current one
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@aperezdc@mastodon.social 2023-01-08 09:06
@AndyPerfors@aus.social recently I've learnt about Szilard due to a podcast I'm listening about the Cold War which goes into quite some detail, and he sounds like an interesting character indeed! Thanks for sharing, this quote is amazing.
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@augustusvalentinus@rollenspiel.social 2023-01-08 10:25
@AndyPerfors@aus.social Prophetic! Unbelievable! Thanks a lot for sharing. I spent one year of life writing grant applications instead on focusing on my reasearch, so this strikes very close to home. I’m glad there is a debate going on about this. Stagnation means death!
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@yuki2501@hackers.town 2023-01-09 23:04
@AndyPerfors@aus.social oh no :oh_no:
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@Bene@scholar.social 2023-01-10 05:36
@AndyPerfors@aus.social How could he perceive that we would use this as a manual?
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@badri@scholar.social 2023-01-10 10:27
@AndyPerfors@aus.social the website link had me hooked! Now I'm going to try and get hold of the book...📖
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@TimoRoettger@scholar.social 2023-01-10 12:16
@AndyPerfors@aus.social wow