Post #750876
2026-03-23 15:54 UTC
Replies (20)
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@glipari@social.sciences.re 2026-03-23 15:57
@rfc1036@hostux.social thanks, this clarifies a few things to me.
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@pepsy@mastodon.bida.im 2026-03-23 16:44
@rfc1036@hostux.social Lettura interessante. Sullo stesso argomento consiglio anche di leggere https://agelesslinux.org
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@migratory@jorts.horse 2026-03-23 16:56
@rfc1036@hostux.social this seems like an extremely disingenuous way to describe the state of affairs. you're saying fascist trolls are opposed to mechanical infrastructure for categorizing persons? I think some good faith is needed on both sides of this exchange
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@letoams@defcon.social 2026-03-23 17:02
@rfc1036@hostux.social you lost me at calling those people nazis. Like literally i stopped reading your article after “campaign orchestrated by fascist elements” and “the free software Nazi bar crowd”. And I was one of the people acknowledging systemd was already taking over /etc/passwd before age verification law. The biggest problem of systemd has always been how it treats its users. You show nothing has changed.
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@truh@shark.community 2026-03-23 17:08
@rfc1036@hostux.social sure let's ignore the rightfully concerned privacy advocates and only listen and respond to the Nazi trolls...
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@poundquerydotinfo@forum.virctuary.com 2026-03-23 17:20
@rfc1036@hostux.social Fan of systemd here, albeit one concerned by its direction lately, and yes, I'm aware the DoB field could be interpreted multiple ways. HOWEVER: Nobody in my feeds who is concerned about the DoB field can remotely be described as "fascist". The fact you see some of the people complaining on X does not mean the concerns originated with a fascist group, or even on X itself. The insult doesn't even make any sense. Why would fascists care what systemd is, let alone oppose it being (unintentionally I hope) infrastructure to an age verification system? The systemd devs chose to implement this feature, and announce it, at a time when everyone is very jumpy about the California law. It was inevitable there would be concerns about systemd implementing something that is a prerequisite to implementing the mandate of that law on GNU/Linux based OSs. It may be unfortunate timing, and a coincidence (I hope), but that doesn't mean that civil libertarians and anti-fascists (who are 100% of the group on my feeds opposing this) aren't going to be jumpy about it. And systemd's unpopularity in many circles means it does need to treat particularly carefully and make good decisions, looking at the world at large, not just at whatever tech thing it happens to be trying to solve. Rather than insulting good faith critics, systemd needs to be run by people with a little more awareness of the world at large. You guys messed this up. Stop insulting those who are worried, and fix it.
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@laura_fae@chaosfem.tw 2026-03-23 17:44
@rfc1036@hostux.social citation needed as to who's orchestrating it. your citations are the Wikipedia articles for "Nazi Bar" and "Moral Panic". Where is that idea even coming from that this is orchestrated by fascists? I've seen actual people take issue with it. Since when are fascists against age verification? What the fuck is this post?! You're spreading blatant misinformation.
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@mort@floss.social 2026-03-23 17:49
@rfc1036@hostux.social I'm sorry you're being attacked by a trolling campaign orchestrated by fascists, I 100% believe you and that's terrible. However, as someone who's decidedly not a fascist, I'm not thrilled either about systemd implementing features intended to enable age verification (which is what the DoB field is). If you don't want the field to be associated with age verification, maybe don't introduce it as: "Stores the user's birth date for age verification, as required by recent laws".
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@kouett@soc.kouett.net.eu.org 2026-03-23 18:10
@rfc1036@hostux.social could you share a few examples of these so called fascist elements? because right now I only see leftists and lgbt people denouncing it. so I'm curious about what you found (I do agree trolling / harassment is a stupid thing to do, however)
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@pu@social.tchncs.de 2026-03-23 18:14
@rfc1036@hostux.social I trust that you mean well, but your article comes across like a conspiracy theory with no proof. This sounds suspicious, and even more so if it’s meant to defend a controversial project. Please provide proof, such people need to be called out.
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@tael@yiff.life 2026-03-23 20:30
@rfc1036@hostux.social https://floss.social/@mort/116279747905971782
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@m3t00@app.wafrn.net 2026-03-23 20:34
@rfc1036@hostux.social is like adding adding a custom field to an ldap directory. nobody cares until they need it. defaults to zero unix-time
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@mxjaygrant@triangletoot.party 2026-03-23 22:01
@rfc1036@hostux.social oh fuck off. criticism is not fascism, but I understand to you pathetic fools that someone telling you "no" hurts your little manchild feelings
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@snowyfox@deadinsi.de 2026-03-24 00:31
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@dylanmtaylor@mastodon.social 2026-03-24 04:33
@rfc1036@hostux.social Even with the other PRs as well, it's still not age verification. Nothing is verified. People have absolutely lost their minds over this.
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@Saberteeth@mastodon.social 2026-03-24 05:27
@rfc1036@hostux.social The only fascists I see are the ones putting age verification in Systemd. I will not comply with AB 1043. - Current Linux Cachy OS user.
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@txt_file@chaos.social 2026-03-24 05:42
@rfc1036@hostux.social True that systemd does not do the age verification. It only provides the tools for others to do that. Also true that Rheinmetall or Heckler & Koch do not kill people … https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk @nono@toot.paris
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@troed@swecyb.com 2026-03-24 07:39
@rfc1036@hostux.social No.
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@Yuvalne@433.world 2026-03-24 07:40
@rfc1036@hostux.social tl;dr: systemd asks for your age the same way it asks for your full name, address or email. if you don't remember ever filling in your full name, address or email: exactly.
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@lyda@mastodon.ie 2026-03-26 11:59
@rfc1036@hostux.social GECOS already asked for your office number, your phone and your office phone. I like the idea of extending that to include other things. Though I thing some "reserved" tags and then free-form tags would be a way forward. The office number field in GECOS made sense when UNIX systems were only in universities and companies for example. Not so much now. And as long as none of the tags are required, it's all good.