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Post #719427

2026-03-21 07:08 UTC

The Engineer Who Tried to Put Age Verification Into Linux https://www.sambent.com/the-engineer-who-tried-to-put-age-verification-into-linux-5/ The lasting damage was knowing it could happen at all: that a single contributor with no stated organizational backing could submit compliance infrastructure for surveillance law directly into the software that boots your computer, get it merged by two Microsoft employees, and have the creator of systemd personally block the removal.

Replies (12)

  • @aaribaud@mastodon.art 2026-03-21 07:32

    @Khrys@mamot.fr (disclaimer: IANALAIDEPOOTV) One remark and one comment: Remark: the title says "tried to", the article says did -- and Poettering blocked a revert. Comment: in countries where the GDPR applies, the feature appears contrary to article 5 as overbroad, even probably purposeless *per se* ; maybe also contrary to recent European decisions against generalized citizen data collection, too.

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  • @sebsauvage@framapiaf.org 2026-03-21 08:56

    @Khrys@mamot.fr I just don't know what do to with this information. 🤔

    Open ##2392293

  • @Khrys@mamot.fr I don't understand what the fuss is about. This is exactly the right way to comply with that law: an optional birth date field. You don't want to have to submit an idea to your OS or implement facial recognition, and you certainly don't want to tie account creation to external services for those things, but now parents can fill in the birth date for their kids, and everybody else can ignore it. This kind of thing needs to be in the hands of parents, not external companies. So I don't really see the problem here.

    Open ##2392298

  • @Khrys@mamot.fr we like to think of FOSS as some sort of anarchist collective°. it never has been. it's run by a series of people with absolute power, for the most part. the benefit is that it's a lot of tiny dictators rather than a few big ones; that in theory anyone can become one, you don't need to be rich; and that these dictators tend to have technical knowledge. but they can still be arseholes. ° i mean, we might not CALL it that.

    Open ##2392316

  • @Khrys@mamot.fr what do you mean, tried? He succeeded, with the complicity of even bigger idiot Poettering.

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  • @guilg@piaille.fr 2026-03-21 10:10

    @Khrys@mamot.fr https://agelesslinux.org/ je préfère cette approche

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  • @bayo@me.dm 2026-03-21 10:13

    @Khrys@mamot.fr Open source's entire threat model assumed contributors act toward user freedom. The surveillance state runs on volunteers: people who do the implementation work for free, out of genuine conviction, with no paper trail connecting them to the money that wrote the laws.

    Open ##2392337

  • @jeffmcneill@hachyderm.io 2026-03-21 10:29

    @Khrys@mamot.fr @pluralistic@mamot.fr best argument for removing systemd (and I actually like systemd).

    Open ##2392339

  • @wrybane@wizzards.club 2026-03-21 11:07

    @Khrys@mamot.fr I don't get it, there are alread fields for location and real name and I never put any real info their either, this is no different, an arbitrary field people don't need to use... And systemd isn't going to verify it either, is it?

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  • @bloognoo@retro.pizza 2026-03-21 11:28

    @Khrys@mamot.fr 'He read the law, took it at face value, and started writing code. The word for what that is sits somewhere past malice, something more insidious: an engineer who treats compliance as engineering, who sees a legal requirement the way he sees a technical specification, and will implement whatever the spec says regardless of who wrote the spec or why.' Zealot. The word is Zealot. His god spoke and he responded.

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  • @Kerplunk@mastodon.scot 2026-03-21 11:42

    @Khrys@mamot.fr The lasting damage was knowing it could happen at all: that a single contributor with no stated organizational backing could submit compliance infrastructure for surveillance law directly into the software that boots your computer, get it merged by two Microsoft employees, and have the creator of systemd personally block the removal. NO, THE LASTING DAMAGE IS ACCEPTING INTRODUCTION AND USAGE OF OF SYSTEMD. Paid for by IBM and later Microsoft to dominate (destroy) Linux

    Open ##2392342

  • @mndflayr@metalhead.club 2026-03-21 12:00

    @Khrys@mamot.fr So, tl;dr, someone added an age field, and the trolls went crazy? And now everybody hates everybody, and each side is calling the other one "zealot" with religious fervor? Just another day in toxicland, I guess. 🤷

    Open ##2392343