2025-12-13 18:19 UTC
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@KFears@mstdn.games 2025-12-13 18:46
@vavakado@mas.to Sophia, one of the people who resigned over it, put it in no uncertain terms that racism is one of the reasons: https://www.sophiajt.com/why-i-left-rust/ The summary by Amos is very centrist, but it provides a good overview into all the statements made (you can notice how toothless they are, but at least they are corporately apologetic): https://fasterthanli.me/articles/the-rustconf-keynote-fiasco-explained Then, dtolnay wrote his own perspective, 3 months after the fact, in which he gave a non-apology and suggested that ThePhdDev wanted to do the talk much later and was "pressured" into doing it early. This is utter bullshit, ThePhdDev had regular nervousness and was encouraged many times, he wanted to give that talk. ThePhdDev rightfully exploded on Fedi for this fucker, being one of the most vocal enemies of that talk, saying this gross lie and half-assing a non-apology. You'll have to forgive me; I don't have a link to it handy. I hope it should still be available. #Rust #RustLang #dtolnay
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@epage@hachyderm.io 2025-12-13 18:50
@vavakado@mas.to @KFears@mstdn.games this is referring to a situation a couple years ago where a chain of actions from several well intentioned people caused a keynote for RustConf to be canceled which was kicked off by dtolnay which people quickly assumed was driven by racism before the facts were known which was compounded by at least one well known Rust community member (but outside the project) making a racist comment that the speaker was only chosen for diversity (they were not). The weight of blame put on dtolnay was made worse by them taking limited responsibility for their part including delaying an apology until they were outed and then doing a poor one. It also has not killed off comptime reflection, just that approach from that contributor. There is on going work in that area by a compiler team member that I am much more hopeful about the design of. This isn't that I'm a dtolnay apologist. Its just that to work to solve problems you need to make sure you know what the problems are.
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@KFears@mstdn.games 2025-12-13 18:53
@vavakado@mas.to About the tech becoming fascist, all I can say is: "always has been". I hope to write about it in depth one day, but most of our present-day infrastructure has been built by people, structures and companies who can't be trusted with anything. They are the ones who'll gladly cooperate with fascists if they ever come to power. And coming to power fascists have been doing over the past years, so yeah. The entire tech field has been built in a way that is vulnerable to fascism. The days we had prior to that have been a historical accident, that is now successfully corrected away.
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@AdmSnackbar@mastodon.social 2025-12-13 19:03
@vavakado@mas.to @KFears@mstdn.games It's because we (as in, the society) told tech bros for decades that they are very special boys and acted like it was true. So these people were brought thinking they were Übermenschen, and now they act like it was true. Also, if you think neoliberal ideology to the end, it's social darwinism.