@nbailey@mstdn.ca @SystemsAppr@discuss.systems As I've tried to express elsewhere, we're probably just better off calling them "network elements" now, and describing traditional L2/L3 as per legacy OSI ISO labels that Padlipsky was so critical of in terms of their meaningful topological exchange only. When you've written a link-state protocol from the ground up, you see differently. Like how P2MP is an ideal fit for fixed-point free-space optics.