Apparently men have to be tracked for safety reasons.
2026-03-09 16:23 UTC
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@paultimate14@lemmy.world 2026-03-09 18:58
This article is using every trick in the dystopian playbook to try to emotionally appeal to people. Protecting women, especially the young girls! > "I think we have to develop solutions that put the responsibility back into other places like public authorities, owners of spaces, police forces," she says. But she still comes out and says what she really wants: more power vested into private, wealthy owners of spaces, to the state, and to the police. Surely nothing can go wrong. Surely this is about equality for everyone and it definitely won't disproportionately impact men of color. Surely this won't run afoul of any tricky edge cases like trans people. Surely this won't be used to deliscriminate against the poors while still allowing anyone in an expensive suit to do whatever the fuck they want.
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@favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2026-03-09 17:37
The UK is a dystopian shithole. They took 1984 and used it as an instruction manual.
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@ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2026-03-10 04:28
When talking about surveilling society at large, as this person is suggesting, it's important to remember that there is no such thing as surveilling a subset of the population. *Everyone* who crosses the boundaries of surveillance, without exception, gets surveilled. When you point a camera at a crowd, it does not selectively exclude everyone but your chosen subject: a camera photographs all. People and systems behind the camera then manipulate and match that data to suit their objectives, and that's where it becomes completely unaccountable, because *the data has already been collected on all.* Today, supposedly, it's dastardly men, the suggestion being that all others will be excluded and thus this extended surveillance of all public spaces must be benign for everyone who is not a dastardly man. But in other places and times, it was runaway slaves, or homosexuals. Recently it has been women seeking abortions and trans people and immigrants. Tomorrow it will be those guilty of wrongthink. And all are surveilled, because *everyone* is surveilled. This surveillance WILL be used to the maximum of its capability, and very quickly, regardless of whatever guidelines or original purpose or its stated goals are said to be in the beginning. These are nothing but lines in the sand that will be washed away almost immediately, because there's just no way to exclude specific groups from widespread surveillance, and our collective governments are far too corrupt and unstable and greedy for power to ever cut off their own access to it.
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@starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2026-03-10 16:48
>The idea is, on that deserted railway platform, the lasers would spot the unnecessarily close choice of seat, registering it as unusual and a potential threat. Security teams would then be alerted and could either direct CCTV for a closer look or send staff in person if needed. Me when I get arrested for sitting down in public. This is definitely not going to drive young men towards figures like andrew tate
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@XLE@piefed.social 2026-03-09 16:47
We're talking the same AI systems that protect children from [lethal bags of chips](https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/armed-police-swarm-student-after-ai-mistakes-bag-of-doritos-for-a-weapon-3273512/), and the same kind of premise that lead to [vulnerable women getting their info stolen](https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks)?
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@chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-03-09 23:59
>If unusual behaviours are detected, for example a large group of people moves suddenly or in an unexpected way, security teams on the ground are alerted and can check if there is a problem. Yes this will definitely be used only for its intended purpose
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@OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2026-03-10 19:45
Surely a society that has shown little care for women's safety would never pretend to care about women's safety to justify pushing their surveillance state forward.
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@captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2026-03-10 12:54
What the fuck‽ Edit: this was meant as a firm and horrified disagreement as a feminist, not as actual confusion or surprise. The UK has been finding whatever justification they can pull out of their ass to increase surveillance and control
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@horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-03-09 18:57
[We’re Training Students To Write Worse To Prove They’re Not Robots, And It’s Pushing Them To Use More AI ](https://www.techdirt.com/2026/03/06/were-training-students-to-write-worse-to-prove-theyre-not-robots-and-its-pushing-them-to-use-more-ai/) If students have to use AI in order to make it look like they're not using AI — what on earth will a system like this do to people? Quite how it will be able to read the intent of people's actions without throwing up a huge number of false-positives is something that I don't understand. And quite what workers are supposed to do when they receive an 'alert' of this nature, I'm not sure. Go up to the individual and tell them that their behaviour has been flagged as suspicious? Way to make me feel more anxious in public.
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@NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 2026-03-09 17:40
At one time, we were promised that having cameras in our faces wherever we go would make things safer. “This invasion of your privacy will make you safer.” That’s clearly not been enough to completely stop this so now we need to take it one step further and use lasers. That will be the end all, be all to put a stop to this. But if and when it isn’t, it’ll just lead to the next victim feeling we didn’t go far enough. Next is going to be requiring every citizen have a drone fly behind them and follow them wherever they go and they pay for this invasion of their privacy. The laser thing just wasn’t cutting it. Someone got assaulted and the people who were supposed to help her didn’t show up. But now having drones follow you and monitor your every movement is going to stop it once and for all. Of course it won’t follow you into your bathroom because that would be taking it too far… …until someone gets assaulted in a bathroom, then we’ll move to now violating your privacy there as well and that will be the end to all of these evil people being evil, once and for all. We promise. That’ll be the last time we violate your privacy and the evil people will stop being evil for sure 👍
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@agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2026-03-10 16:37
Almost all assaults are done by people the victim knows, in private. This does nothing to prevent that.
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@Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2026-03-11 08:36
Her company does [work for the defense industry](https://createc.co.uk/defence/). There's no way this technology will be misused for spying and surveillance. It always starts with the excuse of terrorism, protect the children,etc...
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@Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-03-11 03:24
There is absolutely no clarity on how this laser based system monitors people on the ground. Is it like a radar? How does the system determine from a laser that the target is a woman, man or non binary? More needs to be done to protect women but mass surveillance with iffy claims about privacy ain't the way
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@vane@lemmy.world 2026-03-10 17:04
> A man arrives and sits right beside her, making her feel uncomfortable and unsafe. It's time to patent public bench with gender taser.
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@FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2026-03-11 12:49
> Rosie Richardson is working to develop a technology to help keep women and girls safe in public spaces Not another Elizabeth Holmes clone, ffs. Just stop with the black turtleneck She-E-O bullshit. What a maroon you'd have to be to invest in this
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@sturmblast@lemmy.world 2026-03-10 00:15
This will end well.
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@Janx@piefed.social 2026-04-18 18:35
Are they tracking bears?
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@magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-03-09 19:30
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@steeznson@lemmy.world 2026-03-09 19:29
Why not sell it as a big laser quest game? #YesAllMen /jk Women are slightly more than half the population (51%?) and experience the most harrassment. I think something needs to be done but maybe not a dystopian measure. How about a shared register of dangerous men made by competent devs (not outsourced) that don't leave the s3 bucket open to the intetnet unencrypted? Or - given that the police are useless - make the process of getting a restraining order more straight forward, require less evidence.
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@QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 2026-03-09 19:11
We'll do anything but force men to take accountability for their actions and to change our culture.
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@Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-03-11 00:43
> But the system she is developing does not use cameras and, instead, monitors crowds as anonymous dots on a map. Only when it spots a potential issue are CCTV cameras directed on the individuals, or security personnel sent to the scene. > "Our aim there is to respect public privacy - so really understand that people don't want to be continually monitored when there's no need to be - but also make spaces safe," she says. The process has undergone simulated trials and will soon move to tests in real-life scenarios. Either none of the commenters read the article or they're all the type confused by women choosing the bear. Nothing but fragile male egos on display. Collecting data to allocate limited resources and you're all acting like it's a personal attack on your manhood with some are as an reason to lean in on their toxic masculinity.
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@MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2026-03-11 15:14
Hah! They don't have to. Many have "assistants" listening constantly, door cameras linked to central surveillance hubs, security cameras also linked to those hubs. It's too late for most people - they took the bait. Hell, even the televisions record audio and send it back to the hub, and I've heard now that cameras are the new rage for them so we can "control the TV with motion". Yeah, most are already cooked. I had to replace my old LG, bought a new one. I didn't give it access to the internet. Even so, who knows if it's still secretly doing it? And then there are our phones in which they *swear* they're not tracking us. Yet, plenty of proof they are in fact recording our conversations and tracking our locations.