Manjaro 2.0 Manifesto
2026-03-14 06:35 UTC
Replies (13)
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@Korkki@lemmy.ml 2026-03-14 07:51
I guess something needed to be done.
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@Veraxis@lemmy.world 2026-03-14 12:27
Interesting. As a former Manjaro user (several years ago now), my problems with the distro were more with their approach to package management and the AUR. They withhold packages for the main repositories, but the dependencies for AUR packages will always assume the latest packages, so I would constantly get into these dependency deadlocks where I could not install or could not update certain AUR packages because the necessary dependencies were the incorrect version. I view this as a fundamental technical problem with their approach, and was my main reason for switching away. Hopefully the new structure/leadership will result in technical changes which fix their issues. Though if I am being honest, the vision of a Manjaro with rolling packages is basically just a reskinned EndeavourOS, so I am not sure what they would need to do for me to recommend this distro to anyone.
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@Quazatron@lemmy.world 2026-03-14 09:53
Good. As a long time Manjaro user is good to see something happening. As to why I'm a Manjaro user: I installed it on my laptop years ago and it served me well, with only a couple of hiccups (the now famous SSL certificate issue and some repo keys that were broken), nothing too difficult to overcome but that points out some major organizational problems. Other than that, it just works wonderfully and I'm too lazy to hop.
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@thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2026-03-14 11:47
Acknowledging the issues and having a plan is a first good sign of trust. Executing is the other, so we'll see how this will going. I personally lost trust and interest into Manjaro and switched away. From personal experience, there were technical issues (caused by Manjaro), and social issues (didn't like the administration and project leader). But I hope they "recover" and be better, and survive.
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@solrize@lemmy.ml 2026-03-14 08:07
But why? Just pick a new name and fork, if there's something worth preserving in the distro contents. I don't understand what the something is though.
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@Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-03-14 11:56
just stop using manjaro and move on, seriously
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@cookiemonster@beehaw.org 2026-03-14 13:06
Is today a bad day to install Manjaro then?
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@evol@lemmy.today 2026-03-14 22:09
I have a dream, that one day people will stop making arch derivatives that fragment the user space even more
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@Baleine@jlai.lu 2026-03-14 12:38
This is just like that time they made a constitutional monarchy in France. I predict that the Manjaro owner will be too greedy like the King was and it will just end up in a republic (hard fork with name change).
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@kittykillinit@lemy.lol 2026-03-14 13:52
Man, it's sad how effective peer pressure on the internet is. It's another reason why I don't take most people on it seriously.
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@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2026-03-15 07:25
My recommendation for someone that needs an appstore with a gui is fedora, manjaro is terrible for this, because they have an appstore that regularly breaks and requires cli intervention anyway, if having a gui for package management is important to you manjaro is a terrible choice, as is arch in general. read some of the comments here, this is not uncommon, and it's a fundamental issue with the design of arch package management that has been completely resolved elsewhere. No, I do not agree at all that that is a valid usecase for manjaro. Anybody who needs a distro that works out of the box and is convenient shouldn't even be considering anything arch based.
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@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2026-03-15 14:24
you're right, I oversimplified, bazzite is great because it's unhindered by patents and preinstalls the drivers, I'd recommend a community fedora fork, the key being that it's much easier to turn fedora into this than arch. manjaro is this but with way more footguns, I say this having maintained a bunch of manjaro systems for people, switching them to bazzite fixed nearly all of my maintenance burden, because it's easy to remove them from fedora but impossible with arch, intentionally, and by design. If you want something easy that just works arch is very deliberately designed to not be that, on purpose, even.
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@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2026-03-15 21:58
If you don't like the immutability then use nobara. Tbh I don't think the issues with immutability are CURRENTLY there. you said this: "Entirely community-driven (so suffer much less from corporate influence, and are better from the Linux "freedom" standpoint compared to Fedora, OpenSUSE, etc.)" give me one example of a time this mattered "Widely adopted (have extensive communities supporting the repos, a large knowledge base and active forums)" fedora obviously has this. "Not heavily opinionated (allow proprietary programs, work with systemd, etc.)" And this. i conclude that you have still not made any case that there is even one reason to use manjaro that isn't the cost of switching.