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I am saying that they don’t help contribute much to overall leftist movements How so? The overwhelming majority of groups that have succeeded in establishing socialism have been Marxists. No electoralist progressives have been capable of establishing socialism and solidifying it, ever. and their lack of willingness to at least vote helps minimize our overall impacts as well Marxists do vote, though. As I already proved, PSL runs campaigns. We do not think it is useful for anything other than exposure, however, which is why we stress how important it is to actually do stuff like organizing. Like you said it happens ever 2years and you can’t spare an evening for it? If someone can’t, there’s no reason to scold them for it, as it doesn’t make a practical difference. Are you that busy… and still have not much to show for it? I don’t know what you mean by this, Marxists have established socialism in numerous countries and control the largest economy in the world by PPP. This is far more than any electoralist has achieved. We can do more than one thing at a time and it is foolish to ignore elections completely. Nobody is saying to, though, just that electione cannot bring positive change. If you personally are not organizing in real life, and instead just voting and hoping other people do all of the hard work for you, then you aren’t doing anything at all.