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Just a reminder

2026-07-25 01:15 UTC

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/16451158

Replies (21)

  • @couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 2026-07-25 04:37

    This post just got you on the list buddy

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  • @SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 2026-07-26 03:19

    I have remained a voting Democrat since I started voting during Bush. I do not find “both sides” a way to prevent people from voting. I find that Dems have taken to also nominating insufferable assholes, following the lead of the Republicans. But people like paying more attention to crappy leaders than learning how to elect good ones. Also - Trump hasn’t been as bad as claimed. He has mostly been what I expected for 12 years. Mostly ineffectual and inconsequential. Undeserving of the attention he is given.

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  • @GenLe@lemmy.ml 2026-07-26 04:03

    Nevermind that we hold parties accountable and make them actually represent the people. If centrist/corporatist Democrats wanted to win, they should be listening to the people, and they refuse to do that. They are absolutely complicit in what’s been happening over this past decade, even long before that.

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  • @pinto@lemmy.world 2026-07-26 04:06

    So any criticism of Democrats is a psyop? Isn’t that what the Republicans have been saying since 2016? Fake news? Wow, America is fucked. Both parties think using your head is proof you’re not real.

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  • @JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2026-07-25 17:02

    Okay, but there’s a difference between “both sides are bad” and valid criticism of the democratic party.

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  • @InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 2026-07-25 17:20

    Sir, this is a Lemmy. The issues are black and white. Pragmatism means you’re a Nazi. Everything you’re doing to try and make a difference is worse than genocide AT BEST. I checked your post history and there’s not a single comment about how many Republicans you have personally punched simply for being a Republican and having a different opinion than you, so you might as well be a Republican yourself, which makes you a double Nazi.

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  • @toxicbubble@lemmy.world 2026-07-25 13:48

    or vote green

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  • @golden@sh.itjust.works 2026-07-25 02:28

    Oh is it the time of year for liberals to start telling us we can no longer complain?

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  • @Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-07-26 05:25

    Doesn’t matter when winning is losing

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  • @Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2026-07-26 05:57

    it works, propaganda, flood the news with the trump bs has made people i know just turned off to politics altogether. Also plus GOP can only use gerrymandering, propaganda so much before they have to use voter suppression methods. DNC will never try to combat this, because they lose their political capital.

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  • @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-07-25 23:31

    Ashley B noted in one of her YouTube videos (Here we go) that in 2016, the largest focus of social media campaigns by Cambridge Analytica and by Russian assets, targeted black voters in battleground states to encourage them not to vote. And yeah, the gerrymandering war, voter suppression campaigns, voter caging, election tampering, false rumors of massive election fraud, all these are Republican efforts. When states have free and fair elections to which everyone has access and is allowed to vote, then Democrats win over Republicans.

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  • @AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2026-07-27 00:20

    Posts about blaming a minuscule minority of voters are specifically designed to encourage people to not look for the causes of rising fascism. Keeping people distracted and attacking their socialists allies is the only way Democrats can continue to move further to the right and join Trump’s new “War on the Extreme Left”. If you don’t see the connection, you have a problem.

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  • Broke: Both sides are bad. Woke: Governments are bad. Bespoke: Nations are bad.

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  • @CptOblivius@lemmy.world 2026-07-26 22:20

    Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Fyi… vote in fing primaries, that is the only way to fix the kinda bad side.

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  • Its amazing to me that there are still people who believe their are "two sides " and that voting works. Just gotta vote harder guys and next time we won’t get an Israeli puppet!

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  • @DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 2026-07-26 18:09

    The fact that this is still a thing is baffling to me. I am, by no means, a fan of Establishment Democrats. But this is why we have primaries. We can walk and chew gum at the same time; vote for progressives in the primaries, vote agaist the fascists at the same time. And while we’re at it, between primaries, we criticize the people we elect because we demand better of them. And we warn them that they will lose to a progressive next primary if they don’t find the plot again. This is not very hard. We can’t just note vote if we want to escapw the jaws of fascism without a civil war. We don’t have to like establishment democrats, but right now electing a do-nothing is objective improvement. It’s voting to get more time. And if the narrative for the democratic party is a progressive narrative, then progressive candidates can drag them kicking and screaming further to the left where they either find some values, or we send them to an early retirement next primary. We call this process “democracy.” And I don’t wanna hear shit about it being “rigged.” If Viktor Orbon couldn’t hold on to an openly rigged system, the DNC doesn’t have that much more control either! Half the fucking country doesn’t vote. If everyone did, they couldn’t ignore the mandate. And so we circle back to the meme above: if you’re discouraging people from voting, you are part of the problem. Get them informed, get them motivated, get them registered, make a plan, and go with them if you have to! This is the easiest call to action we will get. If we fail to meet it, the next one will be a lot more painful for the whole world.

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  • @KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 2026-07-25 18:59

    We need to show the Democrats that being conservative light is not good enough by making it have consequences in primaries. The lesser of two evils trap demoralizes people and makes them think that this is the best we can hope for from a politician but it’s not, We’ve seen a rise of left-wing politicians lately and we can do better. We must participate whenever possible and the choices aren’t always great but they do still matter. So yes, Democrats actively doing less damage than the Republican counterpart, and no it isn’t good enough. People deserve a world where hope can be a part of it.

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  • @AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2026-07-25 17:23

    Getting slapped and getting stabbed are both bad. But not equally bad.

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  • @DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2026-07-26 06:52

    It’s far from the only way. They have the means to rig elections or cancel them altogether. If you think voting is getting you out of this mess, you’re in for a reality check.

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  • @lemonwood@lemmy.ml 2026-07-26 11:06

    This is a misunderstand. It’s not about voting. It never was. It’s about organizing. Sure vote for harm reduction. Yes, it can slow things down a bit temporarily, but don’t think it’ll save your life. Both parties are genocidal fascists who will continue to escalate war and state violence. From a capitalist standpoint, fascism is correct and necessary. Profits have fallen too low, democracy is no longer profitable, no matter which party is in charge. The billionaires need living standards to drop much lower. But in a democracy, people would not be willing to accept that, so they need to be disciplined violently. Democrats, just like Republicans will come for your loved ones, arrest communists, continue imperialist wars and genocide, shut down strikes and unions, militarize the police. Simply because Democrats are capitalist and within capitalism, fascism is the next logical step. Not for ideological reasons, but because of real material economic facts. The facts demand fascism. Democrats will adapt or cease to be Democrats. When Nazi fascism was defeated in Europe, it wasn’t by voting for the lesser fascists. The only way to save democracy is to organize real resistance, that’s able to enforce demands. If you have limited capacity to contribute and organize, don’t waste your time campaigning for the Democrats. Vote for them, if it makes sense in your state, but that’s just one day. If you have any energy to spare the rest of the year: talk to your neighbors and coworkers about real solutions. For example general strikes and anti-fascist community self defense. Learn communist theory, start a reading group. Join a Marxist org.

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  • @PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2026-07-26 09:33

    Orban lost because everyone went out and voted for the other party. If you watch interviews of voters, a lot of them said they don’t agree on everything with who they are voting for, but it must be done to progress away from the Orban era. Democracy is a slow process, and sometimes, voting for the lesser of two evils is the only choice you have. It opens the door for better candidates in the next elections to come. Or, you know… you can do an armed revolution. But lately, they don’t bring the change everyone hopes for.

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