Post #4197358

2026-07-29 10:28 UTC

On the subject of looking for a new job: I'm VERY put off by fedihire posts which go like "I want to do X (X usually being Rust) but I would EVEN do Y which I haven't done in 20 years ha ha" (Y usually being PHP or Java). Are people actually still thinking this is a cool and acceptable attitude to belittle PHP (or Java or MySQL or..)?? This makes me so SO angry because we ARE DOING IT TO EACH OTHER. Like the software industry as a whole doesn't have enough problems already...

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@sushee@ohai.social 2026-07-29 10:33

This implicit class-based thinking "my language is better than yours" "my area of computing is harder than yours" "I'm doing X therefore I'm the cooler hacker", "HTML isn't a real language", "web development isn't programming", "mysql isn't a real database" was already ridiculous in 1995 and is inacceptable and devastating to the ALL of us in 2026. And people mean it even when pretending being coy about it "it's just a joke ha ha" and it's despicable.

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@tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.net 2026-07-29 13:39

@sushee@ohai.social do I get to belittle Java if I work on Java tooling and software for fun for 10 years or would that also be offputting Like my "help my game engine is wasting 30% of its memory because all float triplets are 48 bytes" jokes (Valhalla to the rescue when) or me ranting about the bytecode control flow restrictions making it really hard to compile things with more free control flow to Java (we really can't jump to an offset in a method based on dynamic data? Really? Aaaaaaaaaa) or me being angry at the Clojure compiler or me making fun of Gradle's codebase or-

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@awoodsnet@phpc.social 2026-07-29 17:32

@sushee@ohai.social I'd like to see a more respectful approach to language discussion. When someone says some remark that belittles a language, a good response is “No, no. We don't put down other languages. That's not professional.” When someone says “It was just a joke”, respond with “You should stop telling jokes. You're not funny.” and then just let it hang while making eye contact.

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