Post #4145863
2026-07-27 16:34 UTC
Replies (7)
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@skippy@social.lol 2026-07-27 16:38
@UlrikNyman@mastodon.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social My main motivation in not using LLMs is to maximize my own learning and retention, to avoid offloading critical thinking to digital landlords, to avoid paying for a service that will only ever continue to cost more, and to resist contributing to the inflated prices of hardware being caused by this bubble.
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@trantion@masto.ai 2026-07-27 16:39
@UlrikNyman@mastodon.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social LLMs are non deterministic, so you can't know what it's doing and it potentially does different things when you run it a second time. They have no concept of architecture or design, just what is the statistically most likely next symbol. They are extremely inefficient because they have to re-read the whole codebase for every output token. Overuse encourages de-skilling, so you become more dependent on the LLM
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@matt5sean3@urusai.social 2026-07-27 16:55
@UlrikNyman@mastodon.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social The "main" reason is because they hurt people including the programmer. AI data centers driving the major coding LLMs are publicly and visibly hurting people and the environment where they are built and exacerbating climate change with their energy use. Coding LLMs are being used as a justification for mass layoffs, so again, they're hurting people by breaking labor power. Coding LLMs are part of a hail mary to keep the infinite money glitches that tech had relied upon going and in the process is enriching outright fascists, deepening inequality, and setting us all up for a painful economic collapse. So, once again, it hurts people. Also, the various technical reasons other folks will list, which again, hurts you as the programmer.
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@skippy@social.lol 2026-07-27 16:58
@UlrikNyman@mastodon.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social See also https://mathstodon.xyz/@joshg/116990123017590645
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@mensrea@freeradical.zone 2026-07-27 17:30
@UlrikNyman@mastodon.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social there are a myriad of reason: technical, practical, business, legal, environmental, political, ethical, psychological ... . take a look at the the work of Emily M Bender, Timnit Gebru, and Paris Marks (all on the fedi) for a more rigours go over the above
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@EdTheDev@infosec.exchange 2026-07-27 23:25
@UlrikNyman@mastodon.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social Your question led to an interesting thread. Thank you!
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@alahmnat@woof.tech 2026-07-27 23:44
@UlrikNyman@mastodon.social @jaredwhite@indieweb.social "What is the main motivation for not using LLMs as part of the development process?" The same reason you're not supposed to read the Cliff's Notes when you're studying literature: it defeats the purpose entirely. Your students won't actually *learn* a damn thing if they just get it all from the plagiarism bot.