Post #4134778

2026-07-27 08:31 UTC

@rcz@101010.pl That’s precisely what I’m talking about - a constant stream of excuses, which is completely mixed up and its primary point is, indeed, to take away any agency from #Palestine. As I see it today: #Hamas has 100% control over their actions and financially supported by IranHamas control over #Gaza is full, just as their decisions to steal humanitarian aid, enforce “military tax”, conduct arbitrary executions of Palestinian civilians, build kilometers of tunnels for stolen humanitarian fundsHamas doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians as they are, its mission is to destroy Israel at any cost, literallyPalestinian civilians are indeed absent of any agency in Gaza, as they are practically hostages of Hamas - that’s the true tragedyPalestinians in Western Bank have PAA and thus much more agency, and they are indeed focused on development of their autonomy, not on fightingHamas was not “created by Netanyahu”, Gazans voted for it in 2006 in their last elections, after which Hamas conducted an armed coup in 2007 kicking out (=killing) any PAA representatives and turning Gaza into a land fortress with only one purpose - destroy #IsraelThis vote unfortunately irreversibly destroyed any trust built after Oslo Accords and posed Ariel Sharon, who only in 2005 forcibly withdrew any Israeli settlers from Gaza, as a naive pacifist; and this indeed brought Netanyahu to power, so if anything it was the very opposite what left says today Here comes the Western left, mixes all that up, and lumps together Hamas and Palestinians, while being very careful not to mention any of the above events, especially hostile stance of Hamas towards civilians in Gaza, whom they exclusively treat as human shield and source of income.

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@rcz@101010.pl 2026-07-27 10:34

@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl The point about Gazans as Hamas' hostages is something often said by e.g. Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib (a Palestinian American peace activist), in fact his book “Hamas and Its Two Million Hostages” has just been released today. So I'd say it's a valid perspective. That said, it's a fairly optimistic one. It presupposes a population to which Hamas' ideology is foreign, who want basically what people in Western societies want, just waiting to be liberated from Hamas' yoke to focus on their own development. If this is the case, we should think all the polls showing Hamas with a huge lead are heavily skewed, and we should expect them to lose in the planned November Palestinian legislative election, and for constructive forces to win – maybe even Salam Fayyad's list. A less optimistic view is that Hamas' ideology of eternal unrelenting fight for the destruction of Jewish state is actually ubiquitous in Palestinian society, with Hamas being just one religious embodiment of it — and Fayyad's peaceful constructive vision is marginal. If this is true, then it's not a question of removing Hamas as if they were a foreign occupying force. The whole society would need to redefine itself and change its governing ideology to wanting to build something for themselves next to the Jewish state. We'll see, I guess.

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