2026-10-18 21:54 UTC
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@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2026-10-18 22:36
I have a friend whom I have this argument with frequently, not about health care specifically but other socialized benefits (e.g. SNAP). He’s even a leftist, but still thinks he shouldn’t have to pay for people who “take advantage of the system” (e.g. spend their SNAP benefits on things he doesn’t believe should qualify, or receive SNAP benefits while spending their ‘real’ money on things he considers non-essential). The fact that there are corporations getting orders of magnitude more in handouts, or that we’re spending an unreal amount of money on the military, or that there’s unfathomable amounts of corruption in the government, and that those benefits are in actuality a tiny fraction of what his taxes go to, makes no difference. He doesn’t want people at the bottom to get an ounce more than he believes they strictly need or deserve, and I cannot for the life of me understand that line of thought.
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@reddig33@lemmy.world 2026-10-18 22:41
You’re already paying for everyone else’s healthcare. Medicare for all would just make it cheaper and simpler. What do you think happens when somebody walks into a hospital with no insurance? Do they just turn them away? No. Who do you think pays for that? You do. It’s paid for in the markup of your hospital bill.
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@Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2026-10-18 22:47
“Why should I pay for someone else’s healthcare?” Because one day, someone will pay your healthcare you absolutely rotten piece of shit.
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@bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 2026-10-19 00:06
I sometimes wonder if my MAGA Dad has had a change of heart. He used to be against universal healthcare because he “doesn’t want to pay for some homeless addicts healthcare”. But now he’s been laid off and 6 months unemployed as a tech worker. I’m sure he wouldn’t appreciate it being pointed out that he’s living the stereotype he stigmatized for so many years. Or how slippery the slope is to homelessness.
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@echodot@feddit.uk 2026-10-19 05:15
It’s even more stupid than that. They’re not even paying for their own healthcare. If you arrive in hospital and need several million pounds worth of medical treatment, there’s no quibbling about whether or not you paid that much in they just get on with it. The vast majority of people who suddenly require major surgery you actually pay considerably less over the course of a life paying via taxes then you ever would pay for private healthcare, also because it’s the government just funding itself they don’t make random numbers up when it comes to billing, it costs what it cost.
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@FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 2026-10-19 08:54
Especially because it’s the backwards hicks who tend to be the least healthy There’s a part of me that would happily let them die as a result of their stupidity, but I believe even more strongly that universal health care should be universal Let them opt out if they want to once it’s explained to them that it’s “socialised medicine” and is a leftist idea They won’t, because they’re filthy hypocrites