2026-01-05 09:28 UTC
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@whitequark@mastodon.social 2026-01-05 09:30
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social this is a funny statement, considering how incapable the societies we live in (UK & US... as far as i know) of large public works projects like the Pyramids i feel like you'll be right, but not in the sense you're putting in here
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@headmold@mastodon.social 2026-01-05 10:13
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social I feel like the scale of very large projects in software (which I assume you're talking about with "ambition") isn't limited by the ability to write code, but the ability to understand the whole system as a group, communicate it within the group, and set up good incentives within and outside the project. None of these are helped with 2025-era LLMs, and I imagine not 2026's either. Building rickety structures faster seems unhelpful. Is my logic flawed?
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@dymaxion@infosec.exchange 2026-01-05 10:28
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social If only we had any reason to believe that they helped with correctness, reliability, understanding, or resilience of systems. We need less code more carefully-written and better understood; they just make problems we already have much worse.
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@mawhrin@circumstances.run 2026-01-05 10:41
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social There was a young lady from Queens Who gobbled a plateful of beans The beans fermented And she was tormented By embarrassing sounds in her jeans!
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@rudi@hachyderm.io 2026-01-05 13:02
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social this is actually very inspiring! We can still “view the pyramids” 2500 years later, I don’t think the Empire State Building will last that long
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@Yendolosch@23.social 2026-01-05 13:34
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social > Ancient Egyptians could build the Pyramids but not the Empire State Building. > > Pre-LLM software will be viewed like we view the Pyramids. OK, sometimes it feels like we're moving big chunks of stone with primitive tools. But are you saying that LLMs that have been trained on these big-chunk-of-stone projects will offer us steel and concrete and the tools to use them, including electricity and the internal combustion engine?
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@http@infosec.exchange 2026-01-05 22:30
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social That's an odd take. Yes, in the past, software development has accelerated by abstraction and frameworks, making runtime slower, bloated code, etc., but immensely increasing development timelines. Nobody develops big projects in Assembly nowadays. BUT I fail to see where LLMs increase productivity of large projects currently. Main costs are speccing out the requirements and making sure these requirements fit into the existing code. Doubling the amount of coders doesn't half the development times. Or were you thinking about using LLMs for project management instead?
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@jackemled@furry.engineer 2026-01-08 02:13
@HalvarFlake@mastodon.social ok script kiddie