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Post #3916393

2026-07-14 15:05 UTC

Using Rails system tests always seems to reinforce my position that that Rails system tests are a bad idea. "But they validate a whole workflow!" They validate only the hopes and dreams of the person that wrote them and carry a misguided expectation of deterministic execution that ends up blocking everyone when that expectation is wrong.

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  • @jamie@zomglol.wtf 2026-07-14 15:08

    Every team I've worked with since before Rails called them system tests has spent a ridiculous amount of time and effort dealing with them failing intermittently for reasons nobody understands.

    Open ##3948286

  • @toddsundsted@epiktistes.com 2026-07-14 15:29

    @jamie@zomglol.wtf "hopes and dreams tests" is my new forever name for these tests

    Open ##3948289