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Post #3890519

2026-07-17 17:15 UTC

@silverpill@mitra.social @raucao@kosmos.social @lain@lain.com @sozialwelten@ifwo.eu @koteisaev@mastodon.online HPKE has the benefit of being standardized, and imperfect forward secrecy is the best you can do with 0-RTT (which probably fits the fediverse model better). Just be very careful about the "use correctly" and it's "fine". I'm partial to Noise (https://noiseprotocol.org/) for these sort of use cases because it has less foot+guns and there's more flexibility, but I wouldn't freak out or scream if I saw HPKE in use. As a side note, it is indeed safe to convert ed25519 keys to X25519 keys assuming a common sense step is taken when using the latter (https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/509).

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  • @silverpill@mitra.social 2026-07-17 17:25

    @greyarea@mitra.vpclmulqdq.moe @raucao@kosmos.social @lain@lain.com @sozialwelten@ifwo.eu @koteisaev@mastodon.online Is there anything built on top of Noise for group messaging? As far as I can tell, HPKE is used in MLS

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