"Censorship" ☠️
2026-07-14 10:15 UTC
Replies (6)
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@kboos1@lemmy.world 2026-07-14 10:27
Is it not? The definition is the sexualization of a minor or prepubescent girl in anime/manga. Sounds like pedophilia to me.
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@regdog@lemmy.world 2026-07-14 14:19
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@thepig@lemmy.zip 2026-07-14 11:01
The question I always asked is: does the legalization of such material lead to a decrease in sexual abuse of children or an increase ? There will always be pedophiles, that we can’t avoid, what is important is to stop them acting upon their desires and abusing minors, to this end, would lolicon help by giving them materials that where created without harming children ? Or would it empower them to harm children ?
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@BrickEater@lemmy.world 2026-07-14 13:21
Lolicons and MAPS are both Pedophiles by any other name. Stop fuxking normalizing child abuse, drawn or not.
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@godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2026-07-14 16:04
In this context, the translation is absolutely correct in my opinion. I can’t really think of a context where “lolicon” being translated to pedophile would be incorrect. -con like siscons, brocons, etc are complexes or obsessions. Lolicon is a complex or obsession with, drawn or not, prepubescent minors. Loli, not lolicon, can refer to both an individual who looks like the target of a lolicon (a prepubescent minor), or is short for Lolita fashion, which is meant to be a cute fashion style inspired by Victorian-era dress with archetypes like goth-loli. For those wondering why Japan, a very shame based culture, feels more accepting of this, and why it seemingly appears in anime/manga culture so much, CSAM possession was legal, technically, up to 2014. CSAM production and dissemination only started being legislated in 1999, with much pressure from the west. Again, it is absolutely abhorrent and a crime, but culturally in Japan, many feel they are being forced to adapt at a rapid pace. There’s a tangential relation between western conservatives and Japan when it comes to acceptance and cultural change (I wasn’t referring to pedocon theory, but hey, it’s a theory like gravity at this point with it being proven each passing month.) Bonsai Pop’s video on the Rurouni Kenshin mangaka goes into detail on this as he was found with a massive collection of this material. Which, again, was legal for him to own 3 years prior (he was arrested in 2017) regardless of how ethically abhorrent it was. Which it absolutely is. I believe his case was a case of hurt people hurt people in that he was abused as a minor and developed his complex. He never directly harmed children as far as we know, but he did own a large CSAM collection, which absolutely furthers a climate in which exploitation thrives. It’s believed he was likely being used as an example by the state given how public the arrest was while how minor the punishment was.
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@wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 2026-07-14 14:46
It is difficult to have this discussion because not many really want to actually think about it but I’ll do it anyway. I guess the main concern is about how this sort of content could coerce people to attempt their fantasies in real life. However, the subject for a lolicon is a symbol and the subject for a pedophile is an actual individual. To say that lolicons are pedophiles is equivalent to say that gamers who play violent games blowing up buildings or slashing people into a million pieces are terrorists. “Cest une pipe”. What we know is that there is no direct implication between consuming this content and engaging in criminal activity. People have different minds and respond to things in different ways, lolicon is not a predictor of pedophilia. Also, the Catharsis hypothesis, the one where people say engaging on it would keep someone from committing a related crime doesn’t seem to be true either. This one is a an oldie, but it is a nice overview about this topic if you want to get some context: www.imageandnarrative.be/index.php/…/98 I think the most important point of this paper is that the shoujo depicted in such content no longer corresponds to an actual real depiction of the prepubescent and are no more than fantasy.