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Post #3788434

2026-07-13 15:56 UTC

Eh maybe. You haven’t made a compelling argument to not vote for Democrats then. You even said the communist parties don’t win. So until there’s systematic election reform that changes things to ranked choice and not winner takes all, get rid of gerrymandering and ask the other bullshit that keeps things locked into two parties, as much as I don’t like them or agree with them, Democrats are the only party that stands a chance for winning against Republicans in an election. And, going to repeat myself since people don’t seem to get it, and I want to be explicitly clear, I don’t agree with Democrats, condone them, or even want them in office. My voting for them isn’t because I love capitalism and genocide. I just know that whatever Democrats are, Republicans are worse. I know too many minorites that are directly attacked by Republican policies to let them take office. So saying “there should be a revolution” means nothing in the moment because there isn’t a revolution happening. Saying “they are both capitalists so they are both bad” means nothing because yes, they are both bad, but one is less bad. Saying “we should be doing things outside of voting” means nothing because we’re not talking about what to do outside of voting, we’re talking about who to vote for. Once I see a socialist or Communist run outside of the Democratic party that has a chance of winning anything, I’ll vote for them. Once there’s a real revolution happening I’ll be in the streets. But here and now, those things don’t exist yet, so I’m going to work with what I’ve got.

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  • @Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2026-07-13 15:59

    In that case, since I am not an accelerationist, I believe it to be more valuable to bring about revolution by voting for communist/socialist parties than to try to extend the effectiveness of imperialism by entrenching the democrats. If communists and socialists front policy that is widely popular yet consistently loses to the DNC and GOP, or wins and is defanged by capitalists and the state, this increases revolutionary potential by correctly showing the working classes why electoralism is a dead-end. Entrenching the DNC retains the illusion that the system can be reformed.

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