Zig language's policy on AI
2026-07-12 12:45 UTC
Replies (18)
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@placebo@lemmy.zip 2026-07-12 13:04
Can’t wait for the punchline.
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@FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2026-07-12 13:40
Love that, what a cool dude
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@Laser@feddit.org 2026-07-12 13:55
It should be noted that e.g. DeepL which is a very good AI translation service isn’t an LLM but rather falls into the category of “Neural machine translation”. So this would still be fine
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@db2@lemmy.world 2026-07-12 15:29
Zig is really moving on this one.
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@brianpeiris@lemmy.ca 2026-07-12 16:17
If the Zig community carves out a territory of principled engineering like this, I may adopt it as my primary language and make a career out of it. Finally an island of sanity in a sea of slop.
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@Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 2026-07-12 16:19
They hiring?
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@nabladabla@sopuli.xyz 2026-07-12 17:58
The book by Asimov mentioned there is really good
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@CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2026-07-12 18:47
No people who have ever used, or heard of LLMs.
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@chris@l.roofo.cc 2026-07-12 20:09
Then there is bun where the rules are probably written by an LLM and say “all non LLM uses are forbidden”. Context: The did a complete rust rewrite with LLMs that was “just an experiment” and is now probably being merged.
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@mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2026-07-12 20:43
Thinkin’ about LLMs? That’s a paddlin’.
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@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-07-12 18:09
I find the “no use of AI for finding bugs” weird, so long as you’re also confirming it yourself.
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@brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2026-07-12 20:47
Encoder-decoder language models and all sorts of stuff were used for translation and spellcheck, long before “LLM” was even in anyone’s vocabulary. Embeddings models were used in documentation searches, in IDEs, and other places. Whenever you used any search engine, pre Sam Altman, you were likely hitting text models too. They worked alright. It was not an issue. Because they are tools with a function. I think people need to be careful of spilling quite reasonable hate of Tech Bro AI into the wider, older field of machine learning. In spite of the effort to conflate them, they aren’t the same thing.
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@vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-07-12 22:30
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profession_(novella)
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@mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2026-07-12 22:34
The linked Asimov story is only dimly related. You’d expect a culture relying on other minds, kept simple, somewhere between Brave New World and HG Wells’s Eloi. But it’s about the method of learning, not capacity or demonstrated ability. Like Bowie: “the fingerprints will prove that you couldn’t pass the test.” Your typical mid-century sci-fi civilization where The Committee has dictated how everything works, and obvious criticisms could be resolved by doing things very slightly differently. The twist is even less relevant, because it treats originality as some vanishingly rare thing that must be tricked out of people. Hard left turn into YA protagonist syndrome. Even though the main character just got done describing the simplicity of learning incremental improvements. Meanwhile the reality of LLM programming is, here’s an idiot robot that will do its best for literally anything you ask… and you are expected to spot where it has fucked up. The only way it’s better than letting project leaders run it themselves is if you are putting in the effort to babysit and second-guess the chatbot.
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@QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-07-13 05:24
That’s a fantastic way to make people hide their use of LLMs.
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@mr_satan@lemmy.zip 2026-07-13 06:59
Zig is an educational project. One of the goals of these rules is to facilitate sharing of experience. Having AI do the work for a person goes against that goal. In that regard it’s completely understandable. It’s not the interview itself, but I can’t be bothered to look for it.
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@Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-07-13 08:50
I think this is super based
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@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2026-07-13 10:05
Wow! Such stupidity. “Don’t use tool B cuz tool is evil!!1!1!1” is bad. You shouldn’t misuse tools, but using LLMs for fixing grammar is a perfectly fine usage. This is dumb virtue signalling.