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Post #3652612

2026-06-29 16:06 UTC

I enjoyed bg3, but DND 5e is not a system I enjoy nor want more of. It's surprisingly shallow.

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  • @ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2026-06-29 16:16

    It’s among my favorites, and I’m nervous for whatever Divinity’s got in its place.

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  • @tynansdtm@lemmy.ml 2026-06-29 16:37

    This is how I feel. And honestly how the developers of BG3 seemed to feel. Additional context for other readers if not necessarily for you, but 3.5 and Pathfinder have a lot of what they call the “magical Christmas Tree effect” where someone using Detect Magic on a player character would see a magical aura around every single one of your body parts. Barring specific character build decisions there was usually a best-in-slot magical item for every place you could have one, and the difficulty curve of the game assumed that you would. 5e, especially early 5e, attempted to curb this. Magic items were rare and powerful, but more importantly interesting. Strict numerical bonuses were powerful but boring so they were mostly eliminated. Flash or nothing was the name of the game, and indeed some magical items literally do nothing but enhance looks. BG3 said no to this. Many possible character builds can only be done, or are strongly encouraged, with sets of magic items. It was an attempt to add depth and choice back in while restricted by a system that had little of it.

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  • @tal@lemmy.today 2026-06-29 17:47

    D&D was optimized for pencil-and-paper-and-dice play. I mean, it has to keep the math simple to keep the game going. I think that a ruleset optimized for computer RPGs would probably look somewhat different.

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  • @orenj@leminal.space 2026-06-29 17:47

    I think I’d rather see more 4e than 5e at this point. Its so one-dimensional

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  • @agentTeiko@piefed.social 2026-06-29 18:36

    Yep I moved to gurps it was a game changer

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  • @iamthetot@piefed.ca 2026-06-29 19:21

    The dnd 5e-ness of BG3 was among the worst parts of it.

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  • @huey_m@reddthat.com 2026-06-29 21:12

    It’s by design. It’s just meant for more casual play, that’s all. I play Shadowrun (pre Anarchy) so I’m no stranger to crunchy systems, but 5e is nice for just getting together with friends, drinking some alcohol, and having fun role playing without having to pay too close attention or needing a group that’s really dedicated to learning the game deeply. More tilted towards friend groups and less towards gaming groups, if you will. I’ll say as a GM, the low bar needed for learning and playing 5e is much easier to get people on board with and even then that bar isn’t always reached… I’ve had to kick people for just refusing the learn what dice to roll after months of sessions. 5e is a great gateway drug to get people into TTRPGs though, and then when you start finding out who is really getting into the hobby, you can spin that group off into crunchier systems and keep 5e around for the more casual role play enjoyers.

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