Post #3614466

2026-07-05 21:56 UTC

Me: "All the so-called private messaging apps have inferior cryptography engineering and need to step up their game. It kind of sucks that Signal is the only game in town that has decent e2ee. We can do better. The community just has to have higher standards and stop settling for bad designs." Random people: "Signal shill"

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@soatok@furry.engineer 2026-07-05 22:00

The worst offenders are the sovereignty-pilled European tech bros who think plaintext-in-Europe is just fine. I argue that well-implemented cryptography ia resilient even when your governments go more authoritarian. Hope isn't a strategy.

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@ck0@tech.lgbt 2026-07-05 23:20

@soatok@furry.engineer Wire seems to be decent too. But I would like to point out that this tools don't have federation and the org behind them are the only o es to manage the servers. From an user side, there is no difference between them and a proprietary solution, your account lifetime is dependent of the good wills of this orgs. Signal has killed my account because one day they decided that not using the main device isn't good enough, after few years.

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@lunarequest@social.nullrequest.com 2026-07-07 09:31

@soatok@furry.engineer I have a friend who holds this view. It is deeply frustrating that people refuse to accept that your favorite messaging platform isn't as secure as they say they are. I wish they'd get you have a more nuanced take on things(also it does no one any favors not to call out bad behavior in cryptography)

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