Post #3539059

2026-07-02 17:42 UTC

I said “again” as in I had seen it before and you gave me a chance to revisit it and confirm I’m correct. No, that would be “I’ve read the wiki page again, thanks for linking it” or even “Thanks for linking it, I read it again but I’ve read it before.” Statesians are also wildly racist, and usually combine the two. No. People in the US are, on average, much less racist than most corners on the world, especially including your precious China - notoriously xenophobic and currently in the process of purging their least favorite minorities like the Uighurs. Orientalism runs deep, and as such depictions of Eastern socialism usually involve deep degrees of racial caricature. Other vile memes involve depicting Chinese people as “bugmen” and as a “hive-mind,” which combines racist views of Asians with anti-communism. All true and all irrelevant to your accusation of Xinnie the Pooh being a racist meme. I’m sure you know this, you’re just refusing to see it because it’s uncomfortable to admit after you defended a racist caricature. Again: I see it just fine, it’s just not relevant to this discussion. If I said: You are currently being racist against black people because minstrel shows, lynchings, segregation, etc. exist(ed), does that make any sense? Would accusing you of “refusing to see them” because you didn’t proactively come out against them make any sense? Of course not. If you just learned about why Chinese people view the meme as racist, why not just change your views? I already told you my view changed to a new, more factual position. I’m simply not leaping to the BS that you’re trying so hard to push.

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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2026-07-02 17:50

No bad-faith on my part, I explained exactly what I meant by saying you linked it for me again. Again, meaning it has been linked for me many times by different people, not you in particular. This is grammatically correct, but you’re using it as a springboard to pretend I can’t speak English well or that I’m bad-faith. As for the US, it’s a settler-colonial, genocidal empire. It is far more racist than China, which has strong minority protections. This is you, again, being orientalist and revealing your racism. For example, you make false claims of genocide towards Uyghur peoples. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is a group of Chinese diaspora living in the west, and they compiled an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims. The majority of their sourcing is western, and they cite official Chinese government writing and white papers when relevant. Uyghur culture is preserved. I also recommend reading the UN report as well as (especially) China’s response to it, which eclipses it in size and detail. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, Christian nationalist and professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does. Zenz’ work has been thoroughly discredited, yet is supported by western media for its utility in fearmongering. An example is lying about 8.7% of new IUDs as 80%, to back up claims of “forced sterilization,” from this chart: The vast majority of the population supports their government, actually, because they are treated very well. Over 90% of the population supports the CPC. NIRA data’s latest polling found China to be one of the more comprehensively democratic countries in the world as seen by its own population: In other words, you’re digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself and doubling down on your orientalist views. It isn’t enough for you to defend racist caricatures, you have to project the undeniable racism of the US Empire onto China, using your orientalist views as reason to believe atrocity propaganda.

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