western women rights
2026-06-29 09:58 UTC
Replies (25)
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@AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 2026-06-29 11:24
Me, a hijabi, opening that thread for all of 10 seconds
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@bryophile@lemmy.zip 2026-06-29 11:27
Everyone believes they’re choosing freely, especially when they’re choosing what their culture taught them to want.
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@apotheotic@beehaw.org 2026-06-29 11:52
That thread was so ew I’ll freely own the fact that I’m a western, white, woman and can never fully understand the cultural and greater context surrounding the choice as to why a Muslim woman, or a woman of any religion, creed, race, upbringing, etc would desire to wear a piece of clothing that would to me, with my cultural and greater context, be a symbol of my oppression. The cool part is that I don’t have to understand why she would make such a choice, to support her right to make such a choice. If you want to support womens rights, you can’t go around trying to restrict us. If you are concerned that women who are making these choices are doing so under indoctrination, coercion, etc, then instead channel your energy into making sure they, and all women, have safe places and resources to address those things.
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@Zerush@lemmy.ml 2026-06-29 12:14
Every woman has the choice to wear what she want, but the key is if she had a choice
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@Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 2026-06-29 15:01
“Who thinks we should go to war with muslim countries to protect their women?” Hands raised “Who thinks we should safeguard muslim women in our own country?” Crickets “Who thinks we should go to war with muslim countries to protect their women?” Hands raised “Who thinks we should go to war with Israel to protect muslim women?” Crickets “Who thinks we should go to war with muslim countries to protect their women?” Hands raised “Who thinks we should end sanctions so muslim women and their children don’t starve to death?” Crickets
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@DScratch@sh.itjust.works 2026-06-29 12:33
“I can’t go outside without wearing a head covering.” “Head coverings are now illegal.” “Now I can’t go outside.” This makes the world more fair and equitable. Here’s a wild idea, instead of making clothing illegal, why don’t we make coercing people into a manner of dress illegal?
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@dan@literature.cafe 2026-06-29 21:02
Hijab is not a choice, but a strong form of operession on women.
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@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2026-06-29 22:54
I am ready for my next ban for linking the paradox of tolerance.
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@jaykrown@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 00:08
I think all adult women should be able to wear whatever they want.
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@mlg@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 00:21
Lol that thread is a cesspool but I’m glad in classic lemmy fashion, its not shadow banned or locked. I don’t want to add more fuel to the flames but it’s a case example of why I don’t take the EU seriously when it comes to free speech laws or claims of “secularity”. France and UK were out here blocking Bosnia from arming itself during the genocide carried out by Serbia because they didn’t want a muslim country to exist in Europe. feddit banned luigi and pro gaza content because it’s apparently illegal to discuss those topic in Germany, as if an internet forum talking about foreign news needs to be regulated by the government. It’s not as bad as reddit, but there are some seriously god awful comments on that post trying to justify poorly disguised ethnic filtering laws.
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@mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 2026-06-30 02:43
The whole idea of wearing a piece of clothing for some god is cringe as fuck.
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@SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 04:28
Oh look a Strawman! This is propaganda.
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@bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 10:53
Nobody was ever kill for wearing hijab A lot were killed for taking him off. Your false equivalence is revolting.
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@CyroSignal@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 11:39
Civil rights according to liberals :
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@SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 2026-06-30 11:53
Fuck clothes. Like, FUCK CHOTHES! Do y’all think that’s the most pressing issue of our times?!?!?
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@Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 12:10
Americans scrapped Roe vs Wade but think bikini = equality
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@philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club 2026-06-30 10:32
What a rabbithole to go down. I agree no one should have the right tell someone else what to wear, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a tool of oppression in other cultures
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@vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-06-30 12:41
i’m so happy i wasn’t born in one of those misogynistic shitholes america may suck but at least i can dress as slutty as i want here
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@GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 17:33
A Turkish acquaintance of mine from a long time ago introduced me to the idea of reform Islam. I didn’t know that it existed, but she was a practitioner. She didn’t wear a hijab, she swore when she felt like it, and she wore shorts when it was hot outside. Her prayers were usually sitting quietly and humming to herself when her phone alarm went off. Nice girl. Hope she’s doing okay.
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@Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2026-06-30 19:37
This is goofy. Not one of us can wear whatever we want in USA (and many other countries). All sorts of rules on dress. Dress codes for restaurants… dress codes for schools… dress codes for jobs… dress codes for gas stations… dress codes for banks… This is a false issue, used to inflame the dummies
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@electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2026-07-01 03:34
If you’re one of those people super against hijab, do a say, duckduckgo image search for “women in headscarves”. You will see many cultures represented. They aren’t all Muslim, even. Which ones are ‘bad’ and which ‘good’? Would you also ban Orthodox Christians/Jews, or Hindu women from covering their hair? Rasta women?
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@Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 2026-07-01 03:55
Again with the arguement about women’s rights for women who represent a religion that doens’t believe in women’s rights. In fact, the more women in a country that have the ‘right’ to wear Muslim head coverings, the more likely they do not have the right not to wear them or any other human rights for that matter. Which may be why ‘Western’ women are against those religious symbols in countries that have at least some progress on women’s rights. I would rather some women cannot wear head coverings than for all women to become citizens without any rights like they are in many Muslim countries. I would ban each and every religious symbol in public places. Almost every war on the planet was/is propagated by using religion to recruit its supporters and soldiers.
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@Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-07-01 05:10
Got it. Religious freedom as practiced in west is great. Can we move on to more advance topics now?
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@geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2026-07-01 05:18
Type anything negative about Israel and the entire comment section is people saying how this doesn’t representat Judaism even when nobody mentioned it But type something negative about Muslims and all the Reddit Athesists get in line to dunk on them and explain how evil they are. Gleefully discussing about publicly discriminating their clothing. …substack.com/…/arabs-and-muslims-the-real-victim… Noam Chomsky highlighted this shift through his own experience as an American Jew, noting that by the 1950s antisemitism in the U.S. had been pushed underground, and Jews were gradually integrated into elite institutions. In its place emerged a new “legitimate” racism: anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias. Unlike antisemitism, which by the late 20th century had to be hidden, hostility toward Arabs and Muslims could be expressed openly in films, books, politics, and policy: “Antisemitism is no longer a legitimate form of racism. Anti-Arab bias, is a legitimate form of racism, meaning you don’t have to hide it. In most forms of racism you have to pretend you’re not a racist, so you have to pretend ‘I’m not antisemitic, I’m not anti-Black.’ You may be, but you don’t advertise it. Anti-Arab racism, you’re allowed to advertise. This was way before September 11 […] you see it in films, in books, in attitudes, it’s just not even hidden. Nobody will come out and say, ‘I’m an anti-Arab racist,’ but it’s everywhere, and every Muslim or Arab in the country knows it.
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@Aeri@lemmy.world 2026-07-03 16:08
My ultimate answer is that I feel internally conflicted and don’t know what to think anymore. I don’t like when oppressive governments are bad to women. But I’m not super worldly so…