Post #3426512

2026-06-27 11:36 UTC

@lostgen@det.social @mtriclot@aleph.land Here is their response : "Hello, Mullvad is a political company. We fight for freedom of speech, freedom of information and the right to privacy. These are firmly held values of the founders of Mullvad. Mullvad protects the right for people to express things we don't agree with. We protect the right of everyone to access views we don't agree with. We also live these values by being tolerant in our daily work. Everyone is welcome to collaborate with Mullvad if they share these narrow core values. As employees, contractors, customers, suppliers, lobbyists, campaign partners or whatever it might be. No matter what their other opinions are and no matter whether the founders or anyone else in Mullvad dislike them. The founders themselves fundamentally disagree on several important issues. This is what allows us to advance our common causes. Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment is also liberating and promotes truth seeking. The more people do this, the better a place the world will be. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission, in the same way that someone's opinions on animal rights, taxes or public healthcare policy isn't." My response : You say: “Mullvad defends the right of individuals to express opinions with which we disagree. We defend everyone’s right to access viewpoints with which we disagree.” This is a purely rhetorical statement that no one (not even you) can agree with. You wouldn’t defend opinions that call for murder, to put it bluntly. In my case, I do not agree with giving free rein to fascist opinions. The world does not become a better place because of them, contrary to what you write. It’s clearly not possible to get a refund: you have a 14-day cancellation policy (which has expired in my case), and I don’t blame you for that. I shouldn’t have paid for such a long period, especially with a non-decreasing rate, and I’m the only one to blame. I just wanted you to know why I won’t be renewing, and why I’ll be urging everyone to steer clear of Mullvad."

Replies (5)

@briellebouquet@lgbtqia.space 2026-06-29 15:56

@pi_r@corneill.es @lostgen@det.social @mtriclot@aleph.land standard paradox of tolerance stuff. copout loser stuff. Mullvad supports free speech, including free speech that aims to kill people via exodus, and including free speech that aims to shut down opposing speech when will these people understand that speech that gets people killed, is hate speech, and that hate speech actually stifles speech, safety, art, innovation, progress more broadly. favoring free speech includes the hard, absolute responsibility to understand that free speech is a nuanced concept, and that it isn't carte blanche to say whatever you want. there's a line. yell fire in a crowded theatre and see what happens. i wish they'd stop acting like they give a shit about free speech when all they want to do, is yell fire in theatres full of queer and non-white people

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@briellebouquet@lgbtqia.space 2026-06-29 16:00

@pi_r@corneill.es @lostgen@det.social @mtriclot@aleph.land @mullvadnet@mastodon.online standard paradox of tolerance stuff. copout loser stuff. Mullvad supports free speech, including free speech that aims to kill people via exodus, and including free speech that aims to shut down opposing speech when will these people understand that speech that gets people killed, is hate speech, and that hate speech actually stifles speech, safety, art, innovation, progress more broadly. favoring free speech includes the hard, absolute responsibility to understand that free speech is a nuanced concept, and that it isn't carte blanche to say whatever you want. there's a line. yell fire in a crowded theatre and see what happens. i wish they'd stop acting like they give a shit about free speech when all they want to do, is yell fire in theatres full of queer and non-white people

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@mrfoostang@foostang.xyz 2026-07-07 06:08

@pi_r@corneill.es Defending the right isn't the same as defending the thing. @lostgen@det.social @mtriclot@aleph.land

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@xjoe@mastodon.social 2026-06-27 15:46

@pi_r@corneill.es @lostgen@det.social @mtriclot@aleph.land "freedom of speech, freedom of information" Like »X«?

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@jackemled@furry.engineer 2026-06-27 16:16

@pi_r@corneill.es @lostgen@det.social @mtriclot@aleph.land That's the exact same response they gave me. Did you copy that from my post or did they really send you the exact same thing? If they're sending duplicate replies, then they must really be getting lots of complaints.

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