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Post #3387472

2026-06-20 09:50 UTC

@saxnot@chaos.social @dibi58@this.mouse.rocks @karl@infosec.exchange and for what purposes should we NEED an LLM ?

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  • @Hex@kolektiva.social 2026-06-20 10:35

    @orange_lux@eldritch.cafe @saxnot@chaos.social @dibi58@this.mouse.rocks @karl@infosec.exchange llms are useful for NLP. Inference is actually relatively cheap, it's the training that's really expensive and resource intensive. We've probably already maxed out LLM capabilities, so most of this training is not useful. Companies keep training because they need to convince investors that infinite growth is possible. What actual gains are being made are coming from architectural changes, not from training. Basically, "AI data centers" should not exist. Local models can do everything that's needed. If we need to train new models, those need to be balanced against climate goals (basically, don't fucking do it). And LLMs should be removed from basically everything they've been shoved into recently. If you don't know why LLMs are useful, you shouldn't have to interact with LLMs. Even some of the places where they are useful, they can be used to construct cheaper models. There are a few things, like correlation across huge data sets, that they're useful for. But even then, simple encoding can give you semantic search, where inference is not necessary or only provides minimal additional benefit. Yeah, basically, 95-99% reduction in cars and AI. It's basically the same thing.

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  • @saxnot@chaos.social 2026-06-20 10:53

    @orange_lux@eldritch.cafe @dibi58@this.mouse.rocks @karl@infosec.exchange same we use CNN, RNN, ... etc LMM is just another useful helpful machine learning type. in contrast: blockchain was useless from the start. LLM is boring tech blown into weird proportions due to greed, capitalism, tech-oligarchy, etc.

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  • @saxnot@chaos.social 2026-06-20 15:49

    @orange_lux@eldritch.cafe @dibi58@this.mouse.rocks @karl@infosec.exchange technically we don't "need" anything are llm a useful tech with pros ans cons? aee gasoline engines a useful tech with pros ans cons? are paperweighr a useful tech with pros ans cons? but there is no "AI" no A(G)I was ever invented the media around llm is detached from reality, frentic, toxic and more positive than the reality warrants

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  • @alien@mastodon.green 2026-07-02 21:18

    @orange_lux@eldritch.cafe this ^^^^ I literally still do my life as if it was before all this ai nonsense and I'm just astonished at how people are willing to take bullets for that stupid guess-tech.

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