Post #3243831

2025-10-15 21:09 UTC

@curiousicae@tech.lgbt @goat@fuzzies.wtf @0x57e11a@void.lgbt @40796c19@void.lgbt @micr0@wetdry.world thats not my point. even if altbot worked perfectly and made great descriptions every time i would still oppose it because that will lead to trust in other genAI. i dont want it normalized as a tool. and yes, all of this is just different kinds of fancy machine learning. i see the logic behind "so do you not like transcription?" but nah i love that. it's not generative ai. it's on the same level as ocr to me; it's a system presented with symbols that is asked to replicate them in another form. there is no approximation of creativity happening like with alt text generation. alt text by its nature, human or ai, introduces a framing and implicit context of a situation, and that is what separates it from things like transcription. thats what makes LLMs so bad to normalize even with well-intended or actually helpful examples. it preserves the framing and contextual choices of its training data. with the right circumstances, it can spew out harmful framing of ideas on a global scale. wanting to avoid contributing to this is why i oppose altbot.

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@goat@fuzzies.wtf 2025-10-15 21:32

@rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol @curiousicae@tech.lgbt @0x57e11a@void.lgbt @40796c19@void.lgbt @micr0@wetdry.world I mean, I fully agree with this sentiment, fuck generative AI but.. is Altbot really that bad of a use for generative "AI"? it's pretty lightweight on processing power, it does not profit micr0 in any way, it is not used to plagiarize or create any content but simple descriptions for media, so... is it really that evil? i guess one could make an argument about how the tools that allow for Altbot also allow for other kinds of worse things, but i am not entirely sure the idea is to simply drop the concept altogether. Plus... we have been receiving a ton of complaints about Altbot with zero other justification other than direct personal attacks to Micr0 and this instance, straight into our reports inbox, from small instances to the Fediverse cesspool itself: mastodon.social

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@curiousicae@tech.lgbt 2025-10-15 22:32

@rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol I don't aggree with your PoV, but thank you for detailed explanation, at least I understand where your coming from now. (Even if my priorities are obviously different than yours.) @goat@fuzzies.wtf @0x57e11a@void.lgbt @40796c19@void.lgbt @micr0@wetdry.world

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