Post #3026429

2026-03-12 09:48 UTC

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @WeAreFairphone@social.fairphone.community Sorry that sounds for me like. Only Google do that thing. Now others don't like that and say: We don't like, that only Google can do that thing. Come on, lets work together, that we can do such things. And now comes you, jumps angry around and cries: You ugly, bad, unfair, unsecure people. Don't do that thing that only Google can do. It's bad enough when Google do it. We don't allow it. We will fight against you (not against google). And the apps of companies that use that google thing say. Ok there's only google who has such a thing. Sorry we can only use google. And the user says. I can only buy smartphones with this google thing, because the apps of companies use the google thing and we has no alternatives. Is that correct?

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@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social 2026-03-12 14:13

@RonRevog@social.tchncs.de @WeAreFairphone@social.fairphone.community No, those are outrageously false claims. Unified Attestation is nothing more than a wrapper around Android hardware attestation where a centralized service permits using insecure products from these companies while not allowing anything else including GrapheneOS. Android hardware attestation works fine without a centralized service run by for-profit companies permitting their own products and disallowing others. What place do these companies have choosing what is okay?

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@HybridStaticAnimate@infosec.exchange 2026-03-12 16:37

@RonRevog@social.tchncs.de @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @WeAreFairphone@social.fairphone.community No, that is not correct. Its more like; "Google does very bad illegal unethical thing, others dont like that and say 'cmon, lets work together and make our own very bad illegal unethical thing'. Now comes GrapheneOS, stands up and says 'These companies lie, they are unfair, they are insecure, and they only want profit. They are making something illegal. Dont do the same thing google does, we already have enough trouble fighting that and we dont want our progress reset, or worse, to be worse off than when we started. We wont allow it, we will fight to stop this unethical practice.' And the apps that companies use, that also use the play integrity thing say nothing, because they wont have another anti competitive feature. And GrapheneOS can continue working to get these apps to support generic attestation as they have done for many apps before."

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