Post #3004781
2026-04-14 16:29 UTC
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@metr0pl3x@grapheneos.social 2026-04-14 17:59
The European Flag and Open Source shouldn't be shields behind which ideological demagogues and bad faith actors should be able to hide behind. You may not like our pedagogic approach but it comes from having faith in people to discern fact from fiction, and appreciate hearing from people auditing the claims. Those who can audit closed source code do, everyone can audit open source but 99% of people can't & don't. If they are why are we the only voice, what are the motives for staying silent?
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@Xtreix@infosec.exchange 2026-04-14 18:05
@metr0pl3x@grapheneos.social Durov is a 🤡, I'm writting this about his comment on social media where he claims that WhatsApp is a scam, I don't like WhatsApp, but at least, WhatsApp uses E2EE for messaging unlike Telegram which doesn't use it and has never offered anything better than “Secret Chat”, which is completely broken and that no one enables or uses, Telegram has access to all users data that passes through its servers. See also : https://rys.io/en/179.html
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@lincoln@social.tchncs.de 2026-04-14 19:21
@metr0pl3x@grapheneos.social In my opinion, the problem isn’t that these questionable projects are being mentioned, but how this is being communicated. The timeline is flooded with this information. However, that’s not what people here expect. They expect updates on the GrapheneOS project—what’s new, etc.—and not news about other projects that they might not want anything to do with. They follow GrapheneOS, not Murena and all that other crap. There are simply different expectations. The information that actually revolves around GrapheneOS itself has been in the minority in recent weeks. Instead, it’s been information about the other projects. Most people probably don’t mean any harm. In the end, you’ll do what you think is right anyway. That will also be the right path for you.
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@fruitchypear@owo.cafe 2026-04-14 20:41
@metr0pl3x@grapheneos.social I think the problem is not the information, but how it is communicated. Especially when the GrapheneOS account appears out of nowhere replying in random post about how bad x service/person is, although I've seen less of this behaviour. Sometimes is necessary to alert other people before they fall in a scam, I can understand that, but I think you should also give voice to those projects and people who do care about security and privacy and try their best. Don't focus almost all the time in the bad. And accept valid criticisms, like the lack of accessibility options for disabled (especially blind) people ootb: it's not your fault that Google is moving more parts from AOSP towards their propietary dependency, but this is a reality we need to acknowledge. You need less enemies and more allies. P.S.: But yeah, Telegram and WhatsApp are terrible and no one should use it. I'd rather use Matrix with all the federation issues than those.