Post #2896358
2026-05-15 15:58 UTC
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@clarfonthey@toot.cat 2026-05-15 16:02
@Athena@chaosfem.tw there's a difference between tone policing and telling people the reality of what's going on I've been tone policed to hell and back and I don't want to tell you what to do. the reality though is that it doesn't matter what I tell you to do because I know the effect; the thread is now locked from discussion and neither of us can participate does that make you happy? like, ultimately, I disagree that playing nice with people is going to be the way to get things done. but I just wanted to let you know just how many people are on the same page with you and to know who you should be putting energy into fighting and who you're just annoying by arguing with
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@McCovican@infosec.exchange 2026-05-15 17:35
@Athena@chaosfem.tw @clarfonthey@toot.cat 'hol up, sorry for intruding here, but I kinda want to check something: The anti-LLM folk working on this can't afford to take an anti-LLM stance in that thread, or it risks their jobs. But now that the thread has been locked, the anti-LLM folk can't post in the thread anymore. Is that not somewhat analogous to the status quo? If folk couldn't post their honest positions freely in the thread without risking their position, the thread being locked changes nothing. Posting "diplomatically coached" responses to avoid outing yourself is not going to measurably affect the outcome of a policy discussion that is there for appearances only. If Athena's extremely-mild post was enough to get it locked... then they were just looking for an excuse, and they were absolutely not interested in having a discussion. In case that wasn't already startlingly obvious from the preconditions. You don't beat fascism by playing according to fascism's rules.