Post #2876697
2023-01-03 17:05 UTC
Replies (9)
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@Mer__edith@mastodon.world 2023-01-03 17:19
(This is supposed to be a thread, but I'm going to be new to Mastodon for a long time so, maybe it worked?)
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@emc2@indieweb.social 2023-01-03 17:19
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world well said!
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@jdp23@indieweb.social 2023-01-03 17:39
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world Totally agree. One of the biggest orgnanizing challenges for privacy advocates is that we're very silo'ed. There are effective local coalitions against facial recognition and ShotSpotter, national privacy and civil liberties orgs, state-based groups like we have in Washington, companies like Signal and Mozilla ... we often work together on individual campaigns, but there's no coherent #privacy organizing strategy. 2023 would be a good year to change that!
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@areimanios@mastodontech.de 2023-01-03 18:01
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world So important to stress! Not just in philosophy, also elsewhere, people like to think that the best argument will prevail, but it is not about this, it is about convincing people who are not necessarily informed about a topic.
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@rubdos@mastodon.social 2023-01-03 18:41
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world Worked very well indeed, and thank you for writing this up! I feel a very close connection with the #Telegram (and less so #Session) argumentation, which I nowadays perceive as a targetted campaign. I think we need talks like https://video.rubdos.be/w/6KrhTEXzbPHoED1ztEomUU and articles like https://www.rubdos.be/2022/04/15/about-secure-messengers.html to provide back-pressure. Does Signal provide any material that you can slap to people that came into contact with the anti-Signal brainwash actions?
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@wpalmer@fosstodon.org 2023-01-03 18:59
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world "being correct" by itself isn't a strategy, but perhaps an important point is: whenever something is an extremely obvious example of why strong privacy is important, don't hesitate to point out the obvious. random example: LastPass was hacked. If they had strong privacy by default, this would not have been nearly as big of an issue. And they, ostensibly, *do* encrypt. But by considering some things to fall outside of "strongly private by default", it's much worse.
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@afwesty@social.yesterweb.org 2023-01-03 19:13
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world I think it is an error frequently made - to assume that being right will win the argument.
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@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 2023-01-03 19:31
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world Practical question: how and where to organize. I know that I have discussions in https://freenetproject.org as my plan B (when free speech dies we need a place to organize), but that has a high barrier of entry.
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@sigue@mastodon.social 2023-01-04 01:44
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world Is there a link to where I can read your robust arguments? In particular I want to see an argument that deals with how end-to-end encryption for illegal uses should be dealt with. Thanks.