Post #2836345

2025-06-10 22:33 UTC

> Telegram has neither employees nor servers in Russia. There we go with the servers again! Regarding employees – okay, so was Vedeneev a contractor? In the story he himself says that that the arrangement was "informal". Telegram tries to pull a "Schrödinger's Vedeneev" here. He's an "employee" when handling the hardware in Florida, but not an "employee" in Russia? I guess? Regardless, all that is beside the point, which is: traffic analysis and cleartext device identifier. 🧵 #Telegram

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@rysiek@mstdn.social 2025-06-10 22:40

> In the entire history of Telegram, it has never handed over private messages to third parties 🚨 Sneaky use of "private messages"! Remember, Telegram has end-to-end encrypted "Secret Chats", which almost nobody uses; and then it has "Cloud Chats" for everything else. They decided to add "private" here, as if "less private" non-Secret-Chat messages had been provided to third parties? .. :blobcateyes: Yes, there are indications of just that if you're wondering: https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat/ 🧵

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@reedmideke@mastodon.social 2025-06-10 23:22

@rysiek@mstdn.social Leaving everything else aside, a non-employee with an "informal" agreement (and power of attorney) to act as CFO might be OK for a garage startup with handful of employees but seems like a red flag for billion-plus user social media platform

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