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2025-10-20 10:27 UTC

@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl @solar_chase@mastodon.green I am unfamiliar with Steinmeier and made no reference to relative moral debt. I don't consider the idea of moral debt fallacious, but then I'm a citizen of a country subjected to foreign oppression for hundreds of years. Nor, apparently do you, with your score keeping approach to crimes against humanity. Trade and economic convergence are how we have tried to move past hostilities in the EU (once evil is defeated, as Putin must be).

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@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl 2025-10-20 10:37

@samueljohnson@mstdn.social I was referring to this once famous 2007 article by Steinmeier, which was a kind of canonical text in the Wandel durch Handel thinking of German political class: https://internationalepolitik.de/de/verflechtung-und-integration When reading it today, one can only exclaim on most paragraphs “OMG how naive he was!” Steinmeier’s problem was of course that he was brought up in the combination Christian morality and Germany’s post-war complex of guilt that he internalised so deeply, that he was unable that human societies developed very different moral systems out there. One of them is the predatory model, mastered by Putin. Everything else is the consequence of this blindness - if you hand a slice of bread to a crocodile because you only know horses, it will always end up in one way. @solar_chase@mastodon.green

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