Post #2769860
2026-05-22 18:33 UTC
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2026-05-22 18:46
Imperialism: The practice of states to expand their influence beyond their sovereign borders. Burkina Faso is imperialist for kicking France out of the surrounding region, excellent definition. State-Capitalism: The mode of production where the means of production are owned by the institutions of the state. Referring to publicly owned, planned economies as “state capitalism” is monstrously misleading. Capitalism is a system of private ownership, marketized distribution, with capital accumulation as the primary goal of capitalists. Using “capitalism” to refer to an administered, planned economy is just a subjectivist argument. State capitalism is a better descriptor for the Republic of Korea and Singapore, capitalist economies with heavy bourgeois state control. So, now you want a moralist argument? O.o This isn’t a moralist argument, the argument is to get you to actually explain with concrete examples how China is imperialist. Given that you provided a definition of imperialism that makes Cuba imperialist for exporting doctors and aid missions in order to gain favor with surrounding countries, I don’t think it’s necessary to provide any examples of “Chinese imperialism.”
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@RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2026-05-22 19:36
So…WW2. The invasion of Normandy by the allied powers. Imperialism?
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@QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2026-05-22 19:20
Imperialism: The practice of states to expand their influence beyond their sovereign borders. Vacous redefinition of the term that vacates it of all it’s explanatory power. State-Capitalism: The mode of production where the means of production are owned by the institutions of the state. A definition of capitalism that includes no mention of class or class power is meaningless. So, now you want a moralist argument? O.o Not moralist to ask for proof of the imperialist power doing imperialism. Nice attempt at a dodge though. You genuinely become more of a parody of the western “anarchist” with every post.
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@BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2026-05-23 05:19
Imperialism: The practice of states to expand their influence beyond their sovereign borders. So any state that uses diplomacy, trade, cultural exchange, or anything else to extend their influence is imperialist, meaning all states are imperialist, making the term meaningless. Western liberals love doing this, taking things that the West is specifically guilty of and redefining the word to be so broad that it applies to everyone, letting them keep the smug superiority of bleating “I think both sides are bad!” Without ever having to grapple with the ways their side specifically is bad