Post #2720344

2026-05-20 07:33 UTC

It would appear so. Lots of nonbinary people use traditional pronouns. I’ve been rolling this concept around in My head of the cis-agender and the trans-agender people. Because I’ve met a lot of cis people who don’t have an internal attachment to their gender. I asked them “If you woke up tomorrow with a body of the opposite sex, and everyone remembered you as always having that body, but you still remembered your current body, what would you do?” And they say they’d just get used to it. They identify and present as cis for external benefits, not internal ones. To fit in, or to make romance easier, or just out of habit. They don’t really care. But I’ve also met people who have a personal revulsion to the idea of presenting with a gender, or being seen to have a gender. And people who present more androgynously because they’re politically opposed to how much our society is gendered. People for whom it really does matter. So I think we need to build a linguistic distinction between these two groups. And the best idea I have for the name is, cis-agender and trans-agender.

Replies (4)

@TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 2026-05-20 08:01

That’s really interesting, I like that concept. You explained it really well!

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@yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 2026-05-20 08:45

After a quick search, I found out that the term for what you’re describing seems to be gender apathetic. I’ve met people who seemed a bit apathetic to gender before, so it makes sense that there’s a label for it. Oh, and don’t forget that non-binary people that use ‘he’ and/or ‘she’ aren’t necessarily gender apathetic. They could, for example, be demigender.

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@SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-05-20 11:45

Or … you could let people label or not label themselves, and not worry about that at all. My wife is very non-binary (moreso than me) and says if anyone tries to put her in a box like that she’ll not talk to them again. She uses female pronouns because others expect one or the other, especially where we live.

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@samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2026-05-20 13:46

I’ve met a lot of cis people who don’t have an internal attachment to their gender. That is apagender. I’m one of those. They’re not technically cis, but since they’re fine with presenting as the gender they were born as, there’s no real practical difference.

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