Post #2716404

2026-05-20 15:34 UTC

The first part is unquestionably true, revolution is the exertion of the authority of one class upon the rest. The latter parts are entirely wrong, or misguided. Socialist countries put the working classes in charge. The goals are not lost, it’s that the goal of a working class state is the same as the general class goal of the working classes, the collectivization of production and distribution. This goal is not lost whatsoever, but it does require protecting against opportunists, as well as the former ruling classes, as they still exist and cannot disappear overnight. The Nordics on the other hand are imperialist countries. They bribe their working classes with the spoils of exploiting the global south. This kind of class collaboration is why social democracy is often called social fascism by critics, as it’s collaboration and agreement to perpetuate imperialism in order to have cushy safety nets. Without imperialism, the Nordics would need to turn socialist in order to retain their safety nets.

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@musicjunkie@lemmy.world 2026-05-21 17:44

Not to be overly pedantic but saying “socialist countries put the working class in charge” is the type of intellectually inaccurate rhetoric that confuses less informed people and misleads them into thinking socialism is when the average broke working class retard is making geopolitical decisions AES are ran by a vanguard class that represented the working class during the revolutionary class struggle that overthrew the old elite class but in these vanguard parties they are simply made up of 2nd class elites who use the workers movements to propel themselves. This is why USSR China DPRK Cuba etc all were movements lead by bourgeois (all those famous leaders were elite class not working class including the very writers of core Marxist literature) that resulted in yet more elite class people running the state but doing so on behalf of the working class rather than on behalf of transnational finance The whole “workers rise up to seize the state apparatus” mentality is precisely why it’s so easy to dismantle western “leftist” ideology and why there’s such a major disconnect between the western left and Asians living under literal communist regimes despite both pulling from the same literature. The average McDonald’s worker has no business making large scale societal decisions under any form of government be it democracy or vanguard Marxism because the average McDonald’s worker is too retarded to not DoorDash fast food on Friday the moment they get paid. Trust me, I’ve lived my entire life amongst the paycheck-to-paycheck working class; their decision making skills are the sole reason they are poor not bourgeois exploitation that’s just cope

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