Post #2564599
2024-12-01 18:03 UTC
Replies (6)
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@geertaarts@mastodon.green 2024-12-01 18:16
@rauschma@fosstodon.org Yes, I can understand the discomfort many have with most existing algorithms on the for-profit social networks that try to pull you into the drama. But indeed, I think that an algorithm that just does some simple ordering based on your own social network will be a very different experience. Phanpy has that option, but it is a Beta feature, and quite hidden.
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@deutrino@mstdn.io 2024-12-01 18:45
@rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green I've been thinking for 7 years or so that the answer is multiple pluggable algos which users can select a la carte, with maybe a couple suggested defaults. unfortunately I have not (yet) been in a position to implement any such thing, for Mastodon or any other AP software.
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@Malfunct@kind.social 2024-12-01 19:54
@rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green I think any algorithm should be very transparent and selectable by the user not the host. This increases complexity I suppose, but it is the price of control.
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@whophd@ioc.exchange 2024-12-02 03:13
@rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green I’m going to hype the idea of a trust score to replace algorithms You can set a “vouch value” for as many or as few people as you like — 0 to 100, or -100 to 100 so we can block others Then inherit a proportion of that trust number via followers. It’s the “friends of friends” idea that worked well once before. Plus “friends of enemies” works even more — as any former BBS sysop can tell you, you get more activity overall when you reject more bad activity But we need something to replace the algorithm. Not everybody can do full timeline, or inbox zero. (You control consumption by sliding a filter from 100)
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@gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu 2024-12-02 07:17
@rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green if there is an algorithm then there is a possibility to trick the algorithm which will attract bad actors. With no algorithm, you need to trick people, which is way more difficult when there is no algorithm helping in the deception.
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@manux@mastodon.opencloud.lu 2024-12-02 09:03
@rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green I would love to be able to write my own algorithm , because essentially it is the only way you can follow more people without having the timeline flooded by some. Technically it is of course possible, but it is not easy.