Post #2558457

2026-05-15 06:52 UTC

Great discussion! First order of business; let’s define “socialism”, or “Democratic socialism”, because as a citizen of the US, this (these) terms have been bastardized beyond recognition. Second order of business; the term “left” is also muddled (certainly in my country, but also in the global context). Historically it’s those who are nationalist (don’t want external rule). Modern usage seems less concrete. I like the idea of MRP for staple goods. Are there any producers that make the cost of products below the MRP?

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@cinoreus@lemmy.world 2026-05-15 07:00

Oh, well mrp is mostly for packed food and goods. It’s extremely rare to find stuff below MRP in normal shops, but some wholesale grocery stores would sell stuff for lower than the MRP. For stuff like vegetables and fruits, we don’t practice MRP, but at the same time, that vegetable is far more likely to come from a local farmer than in USA. Actually unless you buy from shopping markets, that vegetable is 100% from local farmer, and most people don’t buy from shopping markets, they buy from local vegetable vendors. There’s plenty of government intervention in agriculture that protects local farmers, but currently I don’t remember much of it

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@Micromot@piefed.social 2026-05-15 08:10

Historically it’s those who are nationalist (don’t want external rule). If I think of the historical meaning of leftism, I immediately think of marxism, but this would be antinationalist, as the goal is specifically unite all workers of the world and ignoring the country borders. Anarchism also abolishes nation states. What were you talking about in your comment?

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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2026-05-15 13:58

Socialism is a system by which the working classes control the state, and public ownership is the principal aspect of the economy.

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