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Post #2458713

2026-05-11 06:09 UTC

@futurebird@sauropods.win Proponents are always comparing it to the industrial revolution, but maybe it's better compared to the likes of leaded gasoline, CFC aerosol cans, or asbestos anything. Maybe some of us have learned to spot a pattern. @cabel@social.panic.com

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  • @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com I think asbestos is quite perfect comparison.

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  • @ehproque@neopaquita.es 2026-05-11 09:21

    @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com from what I've read the industrial revolution brought a sudden degradation in the living conditions of textile workers, the destruction of their environment, child labour in inhuman conditions, and *worse textile products*. So, yeah, it seems like an apt comparison, if we are all textile workers now.

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  • @Chrisgodwin@mastodon.social 2026-05-11 09:52

    @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com I've often thought of it like the 1950's fascination with radiation. Radioactive substances and nuclear engineering can do some amazing things. In the 50s however businesses insisted on marketing nuclear science into everything including things like the "Gilbert U-238" science kit made for children and the countless 'amazing glow in the dark' products. Not to mention all the government projects where people were accidentally exposed to contamination

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  • @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com Those all sound appropriate, also maybe a touch of the radium craze from the early 20th century (such as radium chocolate bars).

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  • @skaphle@social.tchncs.de 2026-05-11 11:57

    @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com The industrial revolution made a lot of people very poor, forced children into labor, reduced the life expectancy of workers, and enabled a speed of ecological destruction that now leads us into systemic collapse. There is only a specific time and place in the world - e.g. the relatively rich global north post WW2 - where the industrial revolution can be framed as something to be aspired and repeated.

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  • @eswag@dju.social 2026-05-11 12:30

    @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com I think the industrial revolution comparison is fair. The industrial revolution impoverished millions over generations, globally destroyed a class of artisan specialists, and most (India & China notably) have barely caught up to their relative standard of living before it. IMO, the IR gets an undeservedly good reputation because of the labour movement's victories in spreading the benefits of industry to the general population in the 20th century west.

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  • @hllizi@hespere.de 2026-05-11 15:10

    @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com I think fly paper might be a good comparison. From the flies' perspective.

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  • @Landa@graz.social @futurebird@sauropods.win @cabel@social.panic.com One big difference: Asbestos was an accident. Botslop is a deliberate and calculated attack, and "AI" in its current form is a weapon.

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