Post #2383015

2026-05-09 14:00 UTC

How about this: it's awful in both places. Just because another country started doing it as well doesn't excuse anything, it means they're now both doing something unacceptable.

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@iByteABit@lemmy.ml 2026-05-09 14:14

I was specifically calling out the hypocrisy of the USA’s excuses to do imperialism. With that said though, it is now clear as day that while China has the ability to do what the USA is doing technologically, they are using that surveillance more sparingly and for better reasons than the USA. It’s not in China that masked thugs are scanning you with their phones hoping to lock you up in some undocumented place and then either keep you there or send you to a random country away from your family. I’m not a fan of mass surveillance in any case, but it’s just so hilariously ironic that the same people who fearmongered 24/7 in their media about China being this panopticon dystopia, are the same ones now exceeding this in every way imaginable, far surpassing the imagination of fiction like 1984 or Black Mirror.

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@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2026-05-09 18:30

That would be true if power didn’t exist. This framing - one where power dynamics are completely flattened - is a major pitfall of liberal thought which always falls apart the moment real life context is introduced. Your arguement serves nothing but to support the imperialist world order.

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@stumu415@lemmy.zip 2026-05-10 02:31

I lived and worked in both the US and China. My life was infinitely better in China. You don’t even notice the cameras but what you do notice is that I can go to my café, leave my electric scooter unlocked with helmet on, get a table outside, put my laptop on it and then go inside to order coffee without any fear anything will get stolen. In the parks there are public coat racks and people put their jackets, backpacks and other stuff on without any hesitation. Delivery packages are left outside and gathered sometimes outside of the compound on the public walkway. Now whenever I travel to Europe, I have to totally reverse this behavior otherwise all my shit will be gone. That to me is awful.

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@LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 2026-05-09 15:03

Weird, for a country that's awful to live in China surrrre beats the shit out of literally any western country when it comes to the approval of the population. Are you sure you're not just a pig stupid ignorant cracker who's been lied to?

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