Post #2313404

2022-11-26 18:22 UTC

Great article from @dajb about governance on Mastodon servers. Like social.coop, Friend Camp has started using Loomio to make group consensus decisions around things like non-obvious defederation, and it&#39;s working out really well. https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2022/11/25/defederation-and-governance-processes/ I recommend instance admins look into Loomio. Once we have used it a bit more on Friend Camp I am going to post a how-to and best practices for small servers.

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@blaine@mastodon.social 2022-11-26 18:23

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop article isn't available; over a resource limit 😢

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@fraying@xoxo.zone 2022-11-26 18:42

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop very very interested in this.

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@jonathan@futurelings.club 2022-11-26 18:50

@darius@friend.camp Thanks for sharing! Just listened to you on the Nerd Farmer podcast too; good food for thought as I start running my own instance.

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@m0bi@social.vivaldi.net 2022-11-26 19:07

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop Zerknij @8petros może cię zainteresuje.

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@willowbl00@indieweb.social 2022-11-26 19:08

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop yayyy Loomio! What an excellent tool and set of people.

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@gogobonobo@pdx.social 2022-11-26 19:34

@foozmeat@pdx.social Might be worth checking out somewhere down the line.

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@WanderingBeekeeper@wandering.shop 2022-11-26 20:19

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop Consensus is the hard way to get things done in groups, but it's the right and ethical way to make decisions about defederation and overall instance policies.

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@warkittens@infosec.exchange 2022-11-26 21:41

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop Something like Loomio is great but even for small servers, it isn't cheap. I think that funding is going to drop off after the birb influx and for instances of more than 100 folks it's $75+ a month. I do think something like this is a fantastic idea and I wonder if it's something that could be handled without a 3rd party resource. Great thinking. It's definitely the direction we should be looking in, decisions on an instance by instance basis.

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@nev@bananachips.club 2022-11-26 22:14

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop i hate loomio with the burning passion of a thousand suns but maybe it's gotten better since i last used it?

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@emma@magicalgirl.party 2022-11-26 23:24

@darius@friend.camp @dajb@social.coop I read: > 'To “keep things the way they are” is always an option, never the default. Framing this option as a default position introduces a significant conservative bias — listing it as an option removes this bias and keeps a collective evolutionary.' 💙 For time immemorial, on bugzilla.mozilla.org, the Severity field had a default of 'normal,' and we could not differentiate (without a lot of work) what bugs had been intentionally set to 'normal' This is important, thanks!

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@jotaemei@social.coop 2022-11-27 02:21

@darius@friend.camp Good! I hope it works out for you all. And, thank you, BTW. You and @dajb@social.coop have just given me an idea for a proposal I’ll introduce on Loomio for social.coop.

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