The hardest challenge for most westerners to pass.
2026-05-08 14:59 UTC
Replies (8)
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@ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2026-05-08 15:10
I don’t mind the criticism as long as something like "I know I live in a murderous imperialistic Western country and I hate it too, but… ". But when does it? Quite rarely.
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@64bithero@lemmy.world 2026-05-08 15:28
What is .ml obsession with defending China ?
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@glasratz@feddit.org 2026-05-09 08:53
The joke here is calling China “socialist”, right?
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@AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 2026-05-09 12:59
this is so close to being self aware lol if the bottom was “learn from China without imagining it as infallible, while understanding there is nuance and depravity in all political systems” it’d be extremely correct. sadly the .ml obsession with China does not include nuance. it’s just a “western country bad, therefore China good” thought pattern that y’all seen to be weirdly proud of for having, even though it’s a clear fallacy most of us would have recognized in middle school.
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@Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2026-05-09 15:31
Learning and critique are the same thing. If you look at China and go “this is perfect in every way and we should copy it,” then you aren’t actually learning anything at all. In my experience MLs don’t get angry with anarchists and others critical of China because they don’t learn from Chinese socialism, but because they don’t like the conclusions they’ve made.
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@AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-05-09 17:38
I’m reasonably certain the two are not mutually exclusive
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@melfie@lemmy.zip 2026-05-09 14:46
The Great Firewall is unequivocally authoritarian, although Western governments are certainly moving in a similar direction. On the other hand, Chinese open ML models like Qwen are more aligned with what U.S. companies like “OpenAI” originally promised before going completely closed and subscription only. These Chinese open models represent a more promising future than the grim and dystopian direction the US is heading with AI.
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@folaht@lemmy.ml 2026-05-10 00:45
Where’s the “very easy” mode half of the US takes?