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Post #2072352

2026-04-16 12:36 UTC

@idlestate @pho4cexa I get where you're coming from, but I'm not convinced. for one thing, your characterization of Conservancy leadership doesn't match my personal experience of them. they are just as hard-line about their own avoidance of non-free software even when that forces other people to work around them; just ask them about banking and taking donations without running proprietary JavaScript, for example. I think they would agree that this is roughly their position, although I'm probably missing nuance. I can even respect them for that stance. but it does make this blog post more strange, in a way, for the reason you point out. anyway, even given a very generous reading in which we assume they were fundamentally only trying to make a "love the sinner" argument, that leaves too many crucial issues unaddressed which really can't be left out of a discussion of generative AI's impact on free software in 2026. I think the thread starting at https://social.coop/@cwebber/116411429436945287 says everything I'd want to about this. I'm very short on sleep right now so I'm not sure how coherent you'll find the above, and there's only so much I'm willing to say about this anyway, but I wanted to acknowledge your perspective even though I don't find it convincing.

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  • @idlestate@toot.cat 2026-04-16 15:06

    @jamey all good points. Thank you. I'm tamping down the urge to dig in around comparison of differences in "hard-line" approaches because that doesn't feel like it would be productive. I had not seen Christine's response yet (insert mutterings about the vagaries of my own attention management here) but I especially appreciate her highlighting the bit about "incorporating their workflows with ours" which I oppose & hadn't absorbed from my earlier skim. I would say by-and-large any such workflows are substantially not primarily those of the individual newcomers, but of their bosses and of the upstream AI companies. there is some scope for bricolage-types of individual creativity from whatever people put together but the bulk of those workflows are opaque, unsustainable, and exploitative @pho4cexa

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