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Post #2031132

2026-05-05 16:17 UTC

@KaCi Speaking to your opening question, I think part of it is how we have grown up in NT-land and learned their ways, and so we have a default NT perspective on relationships, and that doesn't really work for us. You know how the Double Empathy Problem works, well, I think that two autistics who are still figuring things out are interacting by default NT social rules, so each is masking to perform the right signals for an NT relationship, and so is the other person. It's like two native English speakers trying to talk in French after they took one year of high school French class. Or like two gay people trying to date using straight dating rules. Neither person can ever relax and be themselves, and that's a poor foundation for a relationship. You mentioned feeling a good connection with other AuDHD folk and I think that's a good sign. All my best friendships and relationships have been with other ND folk, even though I was unaware of my neurodivergence back then. My problem was I had no clue I was ND so I didn't understand I was working with a different toolset and goals than pop culture educated me to believe was how every relationship should work. But I did manage to find some cool ND friends along the way and some of those lasted a long time but none of them knew they were ND either so it was fucking hell to have a big disagreement and not know why we were fighting about something. Still, it beats hanging out with allistic folk who are really just putting up with me.

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  • @KaCi@autistics.life 2026-05-05 19:01

    @joshsusser Exactly. It makes such a difference to understand your own neurodivergence and to communicate with people who do that too and as I mentioned in another reply there's a lot of joy and validation in unmasking together and accommodating each other. Building shared routines can provide stability for a relationship and can help with managing energy levels and the need for alone time for example. Me asking one question after the other about the special interests of an AuDHD person was so joyful for both of us. This is what I meant with the need for practise and creating new data after working through trauma and internalised ableism. You are absolutely right about the problem that we internalised NT rules and behaviour and the impact that can have on our relationships with other neurodivergent people. I experienced that too. Heteronormativity and neuronormativity have to be dismantled and replaced with our own rules and I experience that as an ongoing process in ND relationships, that leads to personal growth and a deep connection if both partners or friends have the emotional maturity to work through a conflict together.

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